Re: [CR] Re: [Classicrendezvous] G and F

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To: rebour@hotmail.com
Cc: swampmtn@siscom.net, Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 16:01:42 -0500
Subject: Re: [CR] Re: [Classicrendezvous] G and F
From: "Richard M Sachs" <richardsachs@juno.com>


duck, donald...i'm replying to your post!! when i visited irio tommassini, he showed me campagnolo-branded components that bore the fb markings, giving creedence to the possibility that the brothers were producing for the giant. e-RICHIE

On Thu, 30 Nov 2000 15:38:30 -0500 "Donald Dundee" <rebour@hotmail.com> writes:
> The Campagnolo "Sport" hubs for sale on EBay were used on lower end
> cycles.
> They were available after 1958 (regardless what the seller says - he
> posted
> a set of this earlier this month with Bianchi engraving that went
> off at a
> whopping $365 a set. I know the buyer of those and informed him that
> they
> were not GS hubs as represented, nor were they early 50's. The buyer
> was
> (needless to say), upset.
>
> I think I mentioned to you some time ago that FB stood for Fratelli
> Brivio.
> I have a pair of FB hubs with CC gear setup. Quite rare. I guess FB
> and
> Campy had some relationship, but weather or not Campy outsourced
> production
> to FB will take more than "The Giant..." to prove to me.
>
> For now, I'll go with it.
>
> Ken denny
> boston
>
>
> >From: "Aldo Ross" <swampmtn@siscom.net>
> >To: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> >Subject: {ClassicRend]Re: [Classicrendezvous] G and F
> >Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 15:33:10 -0500
> >
> >I was so excited to learn that FB stood for "Fratelli Brivio", I
> rushed out
> >to Northern Lights and did a search. Lead me straight to the
> Fratelli
> >Brivio website:
> >
> >http://www.embrio.com/brivio/
> >
> >However, it wasn't quite what I expected! I tried another one:
> >
> >http://market.thecity.it/fllibrivio/
> >
> >That wasn't it too. I gave up after:
> >
> >http://www.mondoweb.it/montevecchia/vsital.html
> >
> >(vintage bike content) Anyway... who made the all steel Campagnolo
> hubs for
> >sale on eBay?
> >
> >http://ebay.com/<blah>
> >
> >and when were they made?
> >
> >Aldo Ross
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Mark Stevens <m.stevens@camb.linst.ac.uk>
> > > To: <vahdia@att.net>
> > > Cc: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 6:23 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Classicrendezvous] G and F
> > >
> > >
> > > > So that is what FB stands for.! Can you enlighten us on any
> other
> > > > contacts in the Italian cycle industry.? Mark Stevens in
> London.
> > > >
> > > > vahdia@att.net wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The Giant and the File is a charming read , translated
> > > > > into English from florid Italian . The photographs are
> > > > > just the kind we like to see .A Campagnolo obsessive
> > > > > will find that the historical and technical info is very
> > > > > vague with no hard date facts .One fact is mentioned
> > > > > fairly often : Fratelli Brivio were indeed the actual
> > > > > producers of the early mozzi calibrati .A strong
> > > > > precedent for later subcontractors . I found my copy in
> > > > > unread condition at the local flea market offered by
> > > > > someone who was apparently an industry insider judging
> > > > > by his spread of Euro parts . Seth Finkelstein of Santa
> > > > > Cruz CA