Re: [CR]Pogliaghi Tandem on E-Bay

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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 07:43:11 -0500
To: Joseph Bender-Zanoni <jfbender@umich.edu>, Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
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Subject: Re: [CR]Pogliaghi Tandem on E-Bay


FYI to the group - I inquired of the seller and he stated that the tandem was sold to a local buyer for $2250. -Dan Borden in rainy, chilly Boston, MA
>I suspect it goes right back to 1976. Ishiwata custom tandem tubeset.
>Marathon frame. Suntour VGT Luxe R Der., Phil Hubs, Mafac Cantis, Cinelli
>old logo bars, Bullseye BBs, TA cranks. Sure sounds like mid 70's to me.
>
>Joe
>
>At 10:29 PM 4/11/01 -0400, gregparker1 wrote:
>>The direct-lateral style Santanas started production in 1983. I'm guessing
>that's when they
>> also lengthened the rear top tubes? What vintage is yours?
>>
>>Greg Parker
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>>My very early Santana has short stoker top tube syndrome. It took a few
>>years I guess for Santana to sort things out.
>>
>>Joe
>>
>>At 08:32 PM 4/11/01 -0400, gregparker1 wrote:
>>>I tend to agree with Chuck about there being no vintage tandem collectors.
>>>Witness the old, cool Paramount tandems that sometimes show up on eBay and
>>> also tend to get no bids. They look really nice, but are usually not real
>>>easy to handle, nor are they particularly comfortable for the stoker with
>>>their significantly shorter rear top tubes than more recent frames.
>>>
>>>I think the problem is that tandem technology has become far more advanced
>>>since Santana went into production in 1976, and in particular the frames are
>>> much more efficient (and comfortable) than they were back in the "pre-
>>>boom" years. Tandem sales in the US have increased something like tenfold
>>in the
>>>last decade or so I seem to recall.
>>>
>>>Greg Parker
>>>A2 Michigan, where at least we aren't having any tornados (so far...).
>>>
>>>P.S. Anyone want a custom Nobilette 531 tandem in 18"F / 19"R c-t size
>>w/NR tandem cranks,
>>>Phil 40-hole hubs / BBs & rear disc brake in near-mint condition for
>>$2100? If so, please
>>> contact me off-list.
>>>
>>>Chuck Schmidt wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Pogliaghi tandems were pretty amazing in their constuction details.
>>>Described in the Custom Bicycle book as being built up with oversize
>>>tubing to fabricate the lugs (oversize tubing frame cut up to form lugs
>>>for smaller sized tubing).
>>>
>>>My conclusion is that there aren't any vintage tandem collectors out
>>>there (vintage tandems were very whippy).
>>>
>>>Chuck Schmidt
>>>South Pasadena, California
>>>
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>>Subject: Re: [CR]Pogliaghi Tandem on E-Bay
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