brian and all indeed the lugs now offered are wonderful examples of hand work. no doubt someone put many hours into these. i wasn't refering to them in particular(i'd be proud to own a frame built with them) but nervex lugs in general. and dale thanks for the intro to all the gals on the list. you guys are great but it would be nice to go for a ride or sit and drink a stout with some gals who were as obcessed about bikes as i am. happy turkey day to all who celebrate. peace sarah
Sarah Gibson * Old Town Cyclery * Lenexa * Kansas
13440 Sante Fe Trail
Lenexa, KS 66215
913 894 5588
http://www.oldtowncyclery.com/
>From: Brian Baylis <rocklube@adnc.com>
>Reply-To: rocklube@adnc.com
>To: Sarah Gibson <sadiejane9@hotmail.com>
>CC: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>Subject: Re: [CR]Nervex lugs on ebay
>Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:19:20 -0800
>
>Sarah,
>
>Like Richie says; I think those lugs started life as Nervex blanks.
>Pieces have been added to the blanks in addition to having been cut. You
>can take my word for it; those lugs represent a lot of work. This lugset
>should have no relation to the standard nervex with respect to price. An
>item like this lugset seperates itself from the norm because they are
>actually "custom handcut" lugs. Once these lugs sell, let's make sure
>that the value established remains unique to this lugset and doesn't
>spill over into everything else Nervex.
>
>The standard Nervex lugs that we see frequently are excellent as far as
>pressed steel lugs go. There is no real reason one might consider the
>regular ones "like gold" though, and personally when I see the
>rediculous eBay price from a few months ago I can't help but wonder what
>people are thinking (although having the BB shell makes a tremendous
>difference) when they buy things like that on eBay. That's why I don't
>play the eBay game. It really torks me when I see people go for the
>juggular on these things because just like some overinflated vintage
>parts prices, greed takes over and then no one can buy these simple
>obsolete bits for reasonable prices. I have to admit, greed is one human
>trait I find most distastful, especially amongst friends.
>
>I know I live in a fantasy world here and that business is business and
>money is money, but for crying out loud; doesn't anybody do anything
>anymore out of generosity, or God forbid, out of RESPECT for the buyer
>and the effect these actions will have on the future? Very few do. It
>saddens me more than just a little bit.
>
>Have a heart. Give us framebuilders who have slaved for many years to
>preserve a dying craft a fighting chance to continue without paying
>through the nose. The seller VERY generously offered the lugs to me
>before they went to eBay and the price was quite reasonable for the
>amount of work in that set. Had I not just dropped $900 on a dozen
>Columbus SL tubesets a few days ago, that lugset would have had a home
>on a future Baylis frame. At least give us old timers a shot before you
>throw the stuff to the heyenas. I personally greatly appreciate Martins'
>gesture with all my heart.
>
>Interesting to see where these babies go.
>
>Brian Baylis
>La Mesa, CA
> >
> > so guys and gals(are there really any other women here? where are you
>jill?)
> > i would like to ask what you think of these lugs. especially like to
>hear
> > from the framebuilders. i mentioned to a builder i know how high a set
>went
> > for on ebay a few months ago. he was amazed that anyone would pay so
>much .
> > his opinion was they were not that great to build with and he paid about
>$5
> > a set when they were in production. i know there were quite a few very
>nice
> > frames put together with these over the years. and it seems because of
>the
> > highly regarded companies that used them they are now in demand. it that
> > because of their historical significance or their quality. or both. just
> > curious.
> >
> > Sarah Gibson * Old Town Cyclery * Lenexa * Kansas
> > 13440 Sante Fe Trail
> > Lenexa, KS 66215
> > 913 894 5588
> > http://www.oldtowncyclery.com/
> > oldtown@kcnet.com
> >
> > >From: REClassicBikes@aol.com
> > >To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > >Subject: [CR]Nervex lugs on ebay
> > >Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 05:52:48 EST
> > >
> > >Item number 1036256433
> > >
> > >Very close relation to the seller.
> > >
> > >Regards
> > >Martin Coopland