regarding the thread about using versus 'collecting', ferrari and masi were the dropped names. as far as i know, the ferraris that you can buy are not for racing, they are for driving within the speed limit. and the masi bicycles that were race-ready in the 70s are useless in today's racing environment. what's wrong with racing on modern, more worthy stuff, and just appreciating the bicycles and parts that make up the history that brought us to this point in time? e-RICHIE collector. hoarder. appreciator. in chester, connecticut