Re: [CR]using classic bicycles, well?

Example: Framebuilders:Norman Taylor

Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 08:22:37 -0400
Subject: Re: [CR]using classic bicycles, well?
From: Richard M Sachs <>

On Fri, 10 May 2002 02:40:21 -0700 Mark Bulgier <> writes:
> e-RICHIE writes:
> > how many folks have well, you know,
> > have RACED? and at what level?
> > me-i'm a cat 2 on road and track.
> > that and a dime will get me 2 nickels.
>I used to be amazed at how ignorant of bicycles cat 2s were, until I
>started building more bikes for cat 1s, national champions and
>Olympic team riders -they were if anything more ignorant!
>Then I noticed Greg Lemond saying such ridiculous horseshit that
>he made those cat 2s seem educated. So, Richie, your time as a builder,
>and years studying and thinking about bikes, lend credence to your words,
>but the fact that you are a cat 2 means little to me.
> Mark Bulgier
> Seattle, Wa Wow!! And I was gong to ask you out Saturday night. Around here, being a Cat 2 gets you more tale than Sinatra. (THAT WAS A JOKE. HUMOR!!!) My experience building frames for Cat 1s, and National & Olympic team riders from the U.S. and Canada differs from your experience. All of my clients wanted current 'technology'. Each of them were educated, motivated, and ended up with a life after their racing ended. And the ones that still race, I'll wager that they'll end up on their feet, too. To a man, (and to a woman), none of these clients were sheep that needed a shepard. Now, to keep this on topic, here is my point, AGAIN! No one who races at any level, particularly at a high level, would choose a 30 year old bicycle over a modern one. In so many words, that is the comment I made Thursday A.M. regarding the 70s Masi that has spawned so much email and varying opinions. I said that a 70s Masi would be 'useless' in today's racing environment. Perhaps 'useless' was a poor choice of a word. Regardless, I stand by the sentiment.