Hmmm, and I thought Speedy tubing was what the
rednecks up here in WA used for plumbing in their meth
labs.
David Feldman
Vancouver, WA
> Speedy tubing as I understand, is a Reynolds product
> that was a lower grade
> material. Herse and other French makers used quite
> a bit of it from what I
> can tell. It was common on club type bikes and
> also for city/commuter
> type machines as well. It is probably a lower
> Carbon content material (I
> would guess) that was usually supplied in pretty
> thick gauges. Not the
> material for lightweight trials bikes!
>
> Before you write off a bike with it as second tier
> material, remember that
> on bikes with big fat tires, much of the suppleness
> of the ride comes from
> the tires. In essence, on a fat tire 650b bike you
> have a case where frame
> material does in fact start to matter very little
> (unlike a bike which is
> intended for skinny tires - there the frame needs to
> provide the suppleness).
>
> Therefore, Herse for instance, used Speedy tubing on
> very tricked out city
> bikes. The one I have in front of me has Herse
> brakes, Herse bb, Herse
> stem, yet it uses Speedy tubing. I also know of a
> Goeland city bike with
> speedy tubing, a Bianco (person who taught Singer to
> build frames) frame
> built for the president of the French touring
> association (or something to
> that effect) built with speedy tubing (that bike was
> more of a casual ride
> machine from what I can tell), and an Herse
> purchased as a "budget racer"
> built with Speedy.
>
> Mike (not-so-speedy) Kone in Boulder CO
>
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> At 05:39 AM 6/21/02 -0700, bikenut wrote:
> >Brian,
> >The Herse that I recently discovered/uncovered has
> the same 'Speedy'
> >tubing stampings and are clearly visible as well
> even under the nasty green
> >hornet paint job the last owner saw as a snazzy
> upgrade. I was wondering
> >about them also...I will snap some jpgs when time
> permits and post them
> >and perhaps the 'speedy' mystery will be resolved.
> BTW, the 'green hornet'
> >Herse is from around 1959/60 ....the paint job
> obscured the serial # but not
> >the tube stampings.
> >
> >Starting the first day of Summer early,
> >Matt Gorski
> >Belmont Shore, CA
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Brian Baylis <rocklube@adnc.com>
> >To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> >Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 10:40 PM
> >Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Tubing
> >
> >
> >> Gangmembers,
> >>
> >> Since everyone has tubing on the brain (I know I
> do since I'm wallowing
> >> in it lately) I ran into some tubing in a Rene
> Herse that I'm unfamiliar
> >> with. Perhaps someone on the list knows something
> about it. This bike is
> >> a 60's era frame I believe, and stamped VERY
> deeply (as in it could
> >> probably be read from outer space by satellite
> quite easily) in all of
> >> the tubes is the word "speedy". I have never
> heard of this tubing before
> >> seeing it here on this frame. I haven't got the
> paint off yet so there
> >> may be more information forthcomming; but off
> hand does anyone know
> >> anything about this stuff? I would guess it to be
> of French manufacture
> >> but would like to know more just out of (morbid)
> curiousity. I haven't
> >> handled all that many Rene Herse frames so this
> has never crossed my
> >> path before. Most Rene Herse I've seen are
> Reynolds 531. Perhaps this is
> >> a Vitus offering of some sort?
> >>
> >> Don't anyone strain their brain or get over
> technical about it; just
> >> want to know what it is.
> >>
> >> Brian Baylis
> >> La Mesa, CA
> >> BTW Chuck, you dig up the Libellaula and I'll
> roast it for you!
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