[CR]Re: cookie cutter bikes

(Example: Humor)

From: <GPVB1@cs.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 19:35:42 EDT
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: [CR]Re: cookie cutter bikes

Hi Brandon:

Can't resist here:

Bzzzzzz... I'm sorry, wrong answer!

How much artistry and expression of an individual's "style" can there be in a TIG-welded joint? (Yes, I know sometimes you can maybe tell who TIG'ed it, on rare occasions, knowing other details of the frame).

How much artistry and expression of an individual's "style" can there be in a lugged joint? Almost an infinite amount!

What about fillet-brazed masterpieces by Herse, Taylor, etc.?

It's no contest IMHO.....

(TIG-welding is fine as a joining method. It's quick, functional, and fits right into a cost-conscious Production-based environment. Handmade lugged joints can be art. Think Hetchins, to name but one over-the-top example).

Nothing wrong with Andy Warhol's art either - but that doesn't mean it is the "equal" of a Rembrandt or any of the other Masters. It's just art from one of Pittsburgh's most famous residents! (Plus, his peak occurred during the '60s anyways - a classic period!)

Cheers,

Greg Parker Free to choose what I like and be passionate about it in.... A2 MI USA

(Kevlar fully in place...).

Brandon I. wrote:


> I know this is going to border on heresy, but what makes 70's and 80's
> lugged steel frames any less cookie cutter than modern cookie cutter bikes.
> In fact there is way more variety in bike design, materials, and
> construction than there was in our "classic" period. I'm not trying to be
> critical of the "classic" bikes we all love. I'm just pointing out that
> lugged steel was the most cookie cutter of bikes until about 10 years ago.
> I guess I'm tired of the denigration of modern bikes just to make us feel
> better. It's just like looking at a Warhol print and saying it's not art.
> It may not be the art you like, but it's still art and different from what
> came before.
> enjoy,
> Brandon"monkeyman"Ives
> Likes all bikes in
> Santa Barbara, CA