Congratulations, David, you are our lucky winner. I'm sure I must have an old pair of TA pedals around here for a prize. I'll get back to you. Ken Wallace PHX, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: David Benson To: Ken Wallace Cc: dbrk@troi.cc.rochester.edu ; Classic Rendevous Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [CR]Pegoretti Quiz
Ken Wallace wrote:
OK Folks, time for a quiz. Name the reference for each of the followingPegoretti names:Great Gogolee Mogolee Frank Zappa
CCKMP Steve Earle
Luigino Luigino Milano- framebuilder from whom Dario Pegoretti learned his craft.
Now what do I win?
DB Ak, NZ
There is some classic content in there somewhere.Ken WallacePHX, AZ----- Original Message -----From: <dbrk@troi.cc.rochester.edu>To: "Classic Rendevous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 6:55 PMSubject: [CR]Pegoretti confessions
Okay, so earlier this season a pal of mine and I got a deal ona pair of Luiginos. He'll stay unnamed. We learned that Gita hada few non-custom bikes in the blue color that you see on the ByKylesite. We got them from another dealer who is a nice guy and wantedto sell some bikes...My bike, which is sitting here in the living room,looks exactly like those on the ByKyle site. I think Gita had threeand we bought two of them. I could be wrong about that.I had no illusions that this bike was all old school and classic. Iasked Richie about awhile ago and he said what he said to everyone here.In addition to the features that Richie has noted as the primary bits ofhomage to the past, I would only add the Campagnolo 1010B dropouts (whichhe pointed out to me).There are a few things to say about the frame that may be of interestto the Classicists but I took the bike to be a pretty nice example of
a _modern_ lugged steel bike built with a few details to remind usof things of yore. What's wrong with that? So, because I took it to be
actually a more modern bike
I didn't put old parts on it. I thought about doing it all Super Recordbut this _isn't_ really an old bike, with its OS tubing andmodern cast lugs, it's an homage of sorts with clearconcessions to modernity, no? Mine has Campagnolo Record 9 speed Ergoand, like a Sachs or other great bikes built with classic considerations,this bike looks to my eye "appropriate" this way. I have old bikesthat I love, I have new bikes with old stuff, so I did this one another
way.
One really surprising feature of the frame is that it is unusually light.I mean, noticeably---its some sort of Dedaccai MCDlotsofnumbersletterstubing and I was expecting nothing like this. Built up it must be wellunder 20 pounds though I don't weigh bikes and don't really care, it's
just
an interesting side note. Pegoretti may have thought about this andbuilt it this way, he likes light frames and I think he thought ofthis bike as everything a tig'd highzoot steel bike of his could doonly with lugs and a nod to the past.The sparse lugs are nice, clean looking, but don't seem to haveundergone any special treatment. I mean, they don't look much workedover or filed. I bet they came out of the cast pretty clean to beginwith. The paint has some grit and unfinished business about it, sortof typical Euro-paint in the way that they don't seem to care about thisquite the way we do. Not even remotely close to a JB or Baylis,fergetaboutit. But I really love the color. It's easy on the eyes,looks nice (and shades differently) in all sorts of light, plus I ama sucker for anything close to french blues.The threaded stem means I can get a great bar height without showinglots
of stem. Oh, and the fork crown created a problem because itis some slightly larger diameter than true moderns. I had to use abit of dremel tooling to get a regular Campagnolo headset to fit.It wouldn't seat properly. Now it's fine. Oh yes, and the rear dropouts
are
slightly off so that one screw has to be a millimeter ahead of theother to get the wheels to seat properly. But other than that,no problem. Cookie cutter bikes, gimmicks, whatever, I have totell you that Pegoretti builds bikes that ride _fantastically_.It's not aesthetically perfect and nothing to compare to a Sachs,Baylis, Rivendell, or Mariposa, but it's pretty neat in its own way,not too common, and a _great_ ride. I have a set of the fancyNitto bottle cages, a neat Regal saddle and a few touches thatmake it seem a bit more traditional (Mavic 451 brakes, the restis Record). The cable guides on the bb shell are really handsomeand the bike's geometries are neutral and forgiving.Anybody want to know anything about it?It's no great shakes in comparison to Those That Shake Greatbut it's pretty neat to my eye.Douglas BrooksCanandaigua, NY___________________________________