Re: [CR]Curved seat tube Taylor /Paramount/Rigi....

(Example: Framebuilders:Norman Taylor)

From: Jerry & Liz Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
To: <OROBOYZ@aol.com>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Subject: Re: [CR]Curved seat tube Taylor /Paramount/Rigi....
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 20:02:58 -0600

Perhaps the ultimate and much earlier approach to short wheelbase is the Baines "flying gate" now reincarnated as a Trevor Jarvis. I would think these should have been popular in UK hillclimbs as well.

Regards,

Jerry Moos
Houston, TX


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Subject: [CR]Curved seat tube Taylor /Paramount/Rigi....



> Just remember that the Taylor and the Paramounts were still quite a bit
> different from a Rigi! The rest of the geometry was pretty "normal" with
> 72-74 degree angles and normal front centers etc. Rigis were radical in those
> areas too. Super steep, short offset, etc.
> Not a split seat tube, but for a hoot, I built a frame intentionally with
> rather Rigi-like angles (76-77 degrees!) and super stiff
> as-short-as-I-could-make-them Columbus PS bulged out track chain stays. It
> belongs to Jimmy Murray, the owner of Revi Cyclewear. Anyway, the ride is
> exhilarating, quick and goes in a straight line . But a small amount of
> steering input yields instant and dramatic response. Not bad as long as you
> stay alert. The negatives are that the rear end kinds of bounces and bucks on
> bumpy pavement especially noticeable when climbing. A more compliant tubing
> or longer chain stays doesn't behave that way....... In my view another case
> where the supposed God of "Stiffness" is a false one...
>
> Dale Brown
> Greensboro, North Carolina