Re: [CR]Record front derailleur with/without

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From: <NortonMarg@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Record front derailleur with/without
To: mark@bulgier.net, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 22:45:27 EST

In a message dated 11/18/02 12:11:22 AM Pacific Standard Time, mark@bulgier.net writes:

<< I don't see how - the upper pivot grooved for the snapring could possibly be retrofitted to an old body (though I doubt it), but the other characteristic Ken mentions - how the aluminum base for the steel pivot protrudes forward more on the newer ones than on the old - that could not be changed. Nor could the housing stop be added to a newer body with the snapring pivot and protruding base - it's all one piece.

I took a snapshot of both kinds to illustrate; it's at: http://bulgier.net/pics/bike/Campy/Record_F_ders_w_housingstop.jpg

The upper one in the pic has the flat pre-CPSC cage but the steel pivot pin is extended and grooved for the snapring. So I guess this dates it as between around '72 and '78 or so?

Fun Facts: The old one, about a '61 I think, has chrome-plated parallelogram
   arms, and the body pivot pins, which are pressed-in steel on the newer one,
   are aluminum on the old one. They are machined out of the same block of
   metal as the body, not separate parts pressed in.
    >> My cablestop front derailleurs look like the lower one pictured by Mark, and the upper picture resembles my post-CPSC lipped derailleurs. I'm working from memory without the parts in front of me. Are we saying that a CPSC front body has the cable stop on it? I'd want to examine that part with a magnifying glass to see if someone welded on it. I find it hard to imagine that a 1979 fd body had a cable stop on it. Does a list member own this thing? Stevan Thomas Alameda, CA