Is 1R the Cinelli for which they advise that current owners simply replace the alloy bolt with another type or am I thinking of another Cinelli stem model? I seem to recall getting this advice when I was looking for short reach (80m) Cinelli stem but ended as per the lists advice with Nitto high rise and short reach.
Mark Cutufelli in Laurel,MD where it's been raining all day
-----Original Message----- From: classicrendezvous-admin@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-admin@bikelist.org]On Behalf Of Chuck Schmidt Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 7:47 PM To: Classic Rendezvous Subject: [Fwd: I: [CR]Further Cinelli stem question: X/A vs. 1R]
Steven Maasland wrote:
>
> Marc wrote:
>
> The XA did away with the "sliding wedge" of the 1R, so slippage was no
> longer a problem, that I know of. I do ride an XA. Creaking was still a
> problem with Cinelli, but wasn't because of the stem, but rather the bar.
> Cinelli bars that incorporate a reinforced center sleeve are subject to
> creaking, not matter what year they were produced. Bulged centers is a
much
> better idea............ala 3ttt. I agree.......for a rider, the XA is
huge
> improvement over the 1R, but nothing is more elegant than the lines of the
> 1R. Just my personal opinions.
>
> I agree fully with this position and when you lather the 1R internally in
> grease, the slippage problem has never seemed to be a problem to me.
> Creaking also can be overcome with penetrating lubrication, even where the
> sleeve is at fault. My only worry with the 1R is the alloy bolt. After
> sitting for a long time and drying in place, it makes frightening noises
> when you do move it.
I too never had a problem with a Cinelli 1R (hidden clamp) and have used them since 1977 on a bunch of bikes. Use plenty of lube; no slipping and no creaking...
Chuck "now accepting your unloved 1Rs" Schmidt SoPas, SoCal
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