Re: [CR]Campagnolo - The Italian Bully

Example: Racing:Wayne Stetina

Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 20:05:13 -0700
Subject: Re: [CR]Campagnolo - The Italian Bully
From: "Mark A. Perkins" <>

Just a suggestion, but wouldn't it be a good idea to wait until the letter has arrived, and been read, before getting all steamed up about this.

Don't get me wrong, I agree with most of this line of comments and opinions. Except that I wouldn't be too proud to have a pair of these hoods without the logo. Campagnolo never did me any favors, and I really don't like the planned obsolescence that's been going on in the whole bicycle industry for the past two decades anyway. Haven't bought a new Campy part since the mid- '80's.

Off on a tangent, I used to say that when Sun Tour's patent rights ran out on their better (than Campy) shifting slant parallelogram, and Shimano's patent rights on their equally better shifting design with the double spring-loaded pivots, that all derailleurs would have both features. It seems that I wasn't too far off, even Campy derailleurs copy these features these days. Of course they don't use the Shimano or Sun Tour logos either.

"Bicycle Mark" (getting ready for a 100 miler into the Sierra's tomorrow) Perkins Fresno Cycling Club - Historian Fresno, California, U.S.A.

On Fri, 03 May 2002 08:44:29 -0700 Steve Maas <> writes:
> One of your comments is telling:
> "....and they would keep a lot of good old customers COMING BACK (are
> you reading this, Richard?)."
> It seems to me that, if Campagnolo really wanted to support their
> customers, they could offer the manufacturer a no-cost or minimal-cost
> license to produce the hoods. That way, they could keep control of the
> use of their logo and make sure that it was done the way they wished;
> for example, they could require the manufacturer to state clearly that
> the hoods were not Campagnolo equipment.
> However, if their goal is to force people to buy new stuff by making the
> old components obsolete, they've taken the logical route. Unfortunately,
> like most obtuse American managers, they may think they can make money
> by forcing people to buy things they don't want. Those of us with
> three-digit IQs realized, long ago, that such tactics don't work. They
> drive away customers in the long run.


> Steve Maas