snipped: "Why don't more builders use the "wishbone" seatstay arrangement?"
andy got the patent on this style of lugged wishbone attachment in the early 80s and the was subsequently copied by the big boys. that what i remember. e-RICHIE chester, ct
On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 17:06:08 +0000 rodk3d@attbi.com writes:
> So.......
>
> My Ron Stout has the wishbone stays, I've seen Colin Laing and his
> son Ian
> frames built using the wishbone stays, and now I see the Strawberry
> also.
>
> Why don't more builders use the "wishbone" seatstay arrangement?
>
> Is it the "look?
> the ride?
> harder to build?
>
> Rod Kronenberg
> Fort Collins, CO
>
> > Too each their own, but let me lay down why I like it. I find a
> large
> > percentage of bikes, classic bikes included, very boring. I
> really
> > appreciate builders who 'think outside of the box.' Building a
> bike is
> > not rocket science and I think just about anybody on this list
> could
> > make their own. Anyway, I think people spend too much time
> looking at
> > fancy lugs and not thinking about the look or design of the rest
> of
> > the frame. There are tons of folk that just build the same frame
> over
> > and over. . . and over.
> >
> > If a builder is willing to break with tradition that gives them
> bonus
> > points in my book. Take e-richie's frames for example, he uses
> > oversized tubing on all(?) his frames. I'm sure he gets flak from
>
> > people that want a classic looking bike. But he was willing to
> step
> > away from tradition and built using oversized tubes. Rene Herse
> looked
> > at what was around him and said, 'I can do better' and he did in
> many
> > cases. I like touring frames that have racks brazed on because it
>
> > shows that the builder is thinking of how the bike is going to be
> used.
> >
> > In the case of the Strawberry seat binder it's a much better way
> of
> > binding the seatpost that previous methods. Remember all the aero
>
> > bikes that just used a screw into the seatpost. It would scar the
> post
> > and also not hold it very well either. Also the bike just looks
> clean
> > to me and I like wishbone monostays. Again to each their own, and
> the
> > fewer people that like bikes I like the easier it is for me to get
> them.
> > ciao,
> > Brandon"monkeyman"Ives
> > pedals to a different drummer
> > in Santa Barbara, Calif
> >
> > On Friday, March 28, 2003, at 07:08 AM, Grant McLean wrote:
> >
> > > List,
> > >
> > > Just zipping up my flame retardant gear here....
> > >
> > > I don't get it. That seat stay "treatment" seems entirely
> > > disproportionate for a frame that large. I understand
> > > it's their signature move, but looks like it was left in
> > > the microwave too long. Goofy seat post binder aside,
> > > I don't see what else makes this frame drool worthy.
> > > The fork is ugly too.
> > >
> > > Grant McLean
> > > Toronto.Ca
> > > duck and cover!