Re: [CR]Re: NOS Paramount

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From: <BobHoveyGa@aol.com>
Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 16:01:16 EDT
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: NOS Paramount
To: Dan.Borden@FMR.COM, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org


On Monday, May 19, 2003, at 04:33 AM, David Novoselsky wrote:
> Very nice, but overpriced? Okay, that's easy to say for me since I
> have its virtual twin, a perfect all-chrome 73 P-15. But, $2,500 as a
> 'buy it now' price and such a high starting bid? Am I wrong here?
> What are today's Paramount prices, real ones that is, not the later
> PDG products?


> But no matter how nice this all-chrome 72 may be, and it seems to be
> all that and more, $2,500? Not IMHO. Too many keep popping up. For
> every Bike Boom Paramount, there are only a handful of Masis of the
> era, early De Rosas for the Italian fancier, etc. How many of those
> are bringing $2,500? Not a lot, unless I am way off here.

jack bissell <jack_bissell@mac.com> replied:
>With all due respect I don't think it's fair to compare my bike with
>used examples. If I went to get coffee on this bike it would depreciate
>$500-1000 don't you think? Tell us more about all the unridden bikes
>you are using for comparison, particularly the DeRosas.
>My basis for the price isn't relative to the many clean original chrome
>Bob said:
>I think $2,500 would be a fair starting point and
>bids would probably go up from there.
>Dan replied:
>Bob,
>Even with both coming NOS out of the box, a 1972 Paramount is in no way in
>the same league as a 1972 Masi.
>Richie's guess might be high, but $4500 sounds good.
>Just my humble opinion.
>-Dan Borden

Dan;

I'm nuts about Masi's and in awe of the restoration job Richard did, so of course I agree wholeheartedly. And I agree that my prices are probably way off the mark, so I guess I should have tried to make my point without mentioning actual dollar values... The issue I was attempting to address was whether or not $2,500 was an excessive amount to ask for the Paramount. I was (perhaps inarticulately) trying to express the opinion there's no way a new out-of-the-box bike could be compared with a restored (or even lovingly cared for original) bike of the same make, model, and year.

Bob Hovey
Columbus, GA