Hi all, many thanx for all the replies, sorry to burst the bubble, but both are short reach, the only difference I can see is that the shorter spelling one seems to be slightly better finished and is anodized silver, whereas the older wording is polished silver, identical short reach size, & the same in every respect. The other problem is that everything I bought in one lot had everything from gran sport to NR to SR to Cobalto parts so hard to know what I do have sometimes......regards wayne davidson Invercargill NZ.....