[CR]re. phil wood brakes

(Example: Production Builders:Cinelli:Laser)

From: "Steve Clark" <steve@sjscycles.com>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 12:14:29 +0100
In-Reply-To: <CATFOODTblCBA7x5FRp00002b30@catfood.nt.phred.org>
Subject: [CR]re. phil wood brakes

Hi, have put phil wood brake plus spare disc on e-bay:-

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item!87699445

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item!87699448

bidding can start after 10.00bst 16/08/03

regards,

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}-----Original Message----- }From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org }[mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of }classicrendezvous-request@bikelist.org }Sent: 12 August 2003 20:07 }To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org }Subject: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 8, Issue 28 } } }Send Classicrendezvous mailing list submissions to } classicrendezvous@bikelist.org } }To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit } http://www.bikelist.org/mailman/listinfo/classicrendezvous }or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to } classicrendezvous-request@bikelist.org } }You can reach the person managing the list at } classicrendezvous-owner@bikelist.org } }When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more }specific than "Re: Contents of Classicrendezvous digest..." } } }CR } }Today's Topics: } } 1. Re: OMAS?? } 2. Re: OMAS?? (Chuck Schmidt) } 3. Hot Rod parts...... (Wayne Davidson) } 4. WTB WTT Campagnolo SR Ti top mounting bolt (Wayne Davidson) } 5. Re: Hubs for Jack Taylor Tandem } (=?iso-8859-1?q?Michael Butler?=) } 6. Re: Caylor Frame } 7. Gianni Motta F.S.-sale (Martin O. Walsh) } 8. Masi Pricing. } 9. Crescent Racers (lacetera) } 10. Sears / Campagnolo / 531 bikes (Matthew Grimm) } 11. Phil wood brake (Joel Butera) } 12. WTB: Cinelli XA stem (David Cooper) } 13. Effetibi And Carlton } 14. Bike Brand Signature Colors (Kahrl, Michael) } 15. Re: Bike Brand Signature Colors (Raoul Delmare) } 16. 50's gillot frame ? } 17. Clarks cable set in bronze (Aldo Ross) } } }---------------------------------------------------------------------- } }Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 01:06:07 EDT }From: Bikerdaver@aol.com }To: jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net, tr4play@cox.net, } Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org }Subject: Re: [CR]OMAS?? }Message-ID: <47.3197c4e4.2c69cfbf@aol.com> }Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" }MIME-Version: 1.0 }Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable }Precedence: list }Message: 1 } }Eric- }I tend to agree with Jerry's input. However, I diverge a bit }when it comes t= o the AL-alloy quality used by OMAS. It }was certainly not as hard as Campy, GPM, let alone Shimano }or Suntour of that era. I found out the hard way that= you }could scratch the surface of crank arms merely by using your }fingernail. I d= id however, have great luck with their }Ti-BBs. Cheers, Dave Anderson Cut Bank MT } }In message dated 8/9/03 11:20 PST, jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net writes: } OMAS made some really "trick" stuff in the early 80's.  }They were a specialist in Ti before it became common.  They }were rumored to have made stuff for Campy.  All the OMAS }stuff I have seen was absolutely top qualit= y. Regards, }Jerry Moos Houston, TX } }----- Original Message ----- }From: "Eric Elman" <tr4play@cox.net> }To: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> }Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 5:21 AM }Subject: [CR]OMAS?? } }> I've recently purchased (2) NOS OMAS BB's from the }1970's.  One has }> the }Ti }> spindle and other has a steel spindle.  I'd like to hear comments }> from }those }> of you with experience about the quality of the Ti varient.  }> Durable, }flexy, }> great, problems???  I'm planning on using it on my Raleigh }Team Pro }> in }place }> of the worn original Campagnolo SR Ti BB which I have had no luck }locating. }> }> Also, of the two OMAS BB's I purchased, they came with only }one set of }cups. }> Anyone out there have a set of OMAS cups & lockrings in English }> threads }that }> I could buy or trade for? }> }> Thanks in advance, }> }> Eric Elman }> Somers, CT } } } }--- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative } text/plain (text body -- kept) } text/html }--- }------------------------------ } }Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 23:49:40 -0700 }From: Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net> }To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org }Subject: Re: [CR]OMAS?? }Message-ID: <3F388DC1.877B76C6@earthlink.net> }References: <47.3197c4e4.2c69cfbf@aol.com> }Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii }MIME-Version: 1.0 }Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit }Precedence: list }Reply-To: chuckschmidt@earthlink.net }Message: 2 } }Dave Anderson wrote: }> }> I tend to agree with Jerry's input. However, I diverge a bit when it }> comes to the AL-alloy quality used by OMAS. It was certainly not as }> hard as Campy, GPM, let alone Shimano or Suntour of that }era. I found }> out the hard way that you could scratch the surface of crank arms }> merely by using your fingernail. } } }Odd. I've never heard of an anodized aluminum alloy that could }be scratched with a fingernail. } }An old thread on the CR list a while back established that }OMAS, MAVIC and SR cranks were all forged by SR in Japan }(finished milling done by the individual companies). } }I have a set of the OMAS cranks on my mid-70s Wizard (Brian }Baylis/Michael Howard #16) and two sets of the MAVIC cranks on }two 1980s Vitus (a 979 and a Carbone 7) that have survived }being ridden for many years with no scratches to speak of }(they all have a pearly clear anodized finish). } }Chuck Schmidt }South Pasadena, CA } }. }------------------------------ } }Date: Tue, 12 Aug 03 19:09:19 +1200 }From: Wayne Davidson <wayne.collect@xtra.co.nz> }To: "CR BIKE LIST" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> }Subject: [CR]Hot Rod parts...... }Message-ID: }<20030812070617.IPHG27826.mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz@[210.86.45.204]> }Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" }MIME-Version: 1.0 }Precedence: list }Message: 3 } }Hi all, does anyone have any listings for Hot rod parts other }than OMAS?, }such as Arnold & Saavedra etc, does not matter if not for Campagnolo, }just a little project I'm working on......regards wayne }davidson Invers }NZ...... }------------------------------ } }Date: Tue, 12 Aug 03 20:55:56 +1200 }From: Wayne Davidson <wayne.collect@xtra.co.nz> }To: "CR BIKE LIST" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> }Subject: [CR]WTB WTT Campagnolo SR Ti top mounting bolt }Message-ID: }<20030812085258.JPEH27826.mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz@[210.54.80.151]> }Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" }MIME-Version: 1.0 }Precedence: list }Message: 4 } }Hi all, I am after a NOS Campagnolo SR Ti top mounting bolt }#4004. I have }to trade a #4005 lower mounting bolt that is second hand, not }perfect but }still usable, and also to go with it another lower mounting }bolt, but a }silver anodized alloy item, no markings, NOT OMAS or }Campagnolo, and also }to really sweeten the pot, a NR lower mounting bolt, a little rust but }not to bad overall, email me direct if able to help at }all......regards }wayne davidson Invers NZ..... }------------------------------ } }Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 12:09:26 +0100 (BST) }From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Michael Butler?= <pariscycles@yahoo.co.uk> }To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org }Subject: Re: [CR]Hubs for Jack Taylor Tandem }Message-ID: <20030812110926.80144.qmail@web21512.mail.yahoo.com> }In-Reply-To: <1F47F6AF.1260AC6D.00211578@netscape.net> }Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 }MIME-Version: 1.0 }Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit }Precedence: list }Message: 5 } }In answer to Paul's Taylor tandem question.This is probably as }originally supplied. He did also fit Excelto tandem hubs as }standard then as these were the only easily obtainable tandem }hubs. Airlight tandem Continentals were just as hard to come }by in the mid 60's. } } } } } } Be lucky Mick Butler Huntingdon UK. } } } } } } }--------------------------------- }Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE }Yahoo!Messenger } }--- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative } text/plain (text body -- kept) } text/html }--- }------------------------------ } }Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 07:25:45 -0400 }From: LouDeeter@aol.com }To: johnprescott@mindspring.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org }Subject: Re: [CR]Caylor Frame }Message-ID: <1098CED0.3FDCCBB1.0269AA25@aol.com> }Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 }MIME-Version: 1.0 }Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit }Precedence: list }Message: 6 } }CAYLOR: 519 Kansas Avenue, Modesto CA 95350. } }John, not sure whether this is a current address, but the good }news is that Modesto isn't that far from you! This is all I }have in the Used Bike Buyers Guide for Caylor. Lou Deeter, Orlando FL }------------------------------ } }Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 08:43:26 -0400 }From: "Martin O. Walsh" <mowalsh@erols.com> }To: "classicrendezvous@bikelist.org" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> }Subject: [CR]Gianni Motta F.S.-sale }Message-ID: <3F38E0EE.278DEA02@erols.com> }Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii }MIME-Version: 1.0 }Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit }Precedence: list }Message: 7 } }Dear C.R. List, }Frame size: Seat tube 52.5 cm c-t-c. Top tube 53 cm. c-t-c. }Rear drop outs:126mm.Cost $75.00 plus shipping and insurance. }I'm selling one Gianni Motta "Personal 2001" frameset and }chrome fork.The frameset had the decal/stickers removed by the }previous owner.I sold the frameset to a local bicycle shop and }the owner removed the decals/stickers-I don't know why.The }shop owner stripped the bicycle for parts and also removed the }decals. I bought the frame and fork back and now I'm selling }the stripped down frame and fork. The frame is from 1982-1984 }as best I can determine.There are two listed on the CR }website. The paint scheme on this bicycle is pearly white in }fair condition with two dime size bits of paint missing near }the seat binder bolt (on rear of down tube and the ears of }where of the seat binder bolt goes). The chrome is in very }good condition on frame and fork.Chrome on frame is at the }"MOTTA" rear dropouts with adjusters (included) and on the }drive side chain stay and a few inches on drive side seat }stay. The front fork is all chrome with Campagnola dropouts. I }rode the bicycle before it was stripped down and it rode very }well. One lug on the down tube is "pantographed" (factory }cutout). Seat stays have a plug cap over them particular to }the Gianni Motta frames with bends in the seat stays at rear }brake bridge. Braze ons for down tube shifters.One set of }water bottle braze ons on down tube. Three top tube cable }guide braze ons.Chromed chain hanger on drive side seat stay }(about four inches of chrome on the lower portion of seat }stay). I do not have any digital pictures at the present time. }If anyone is interested in this bicycle I offer a money back }guarantee if not satisfied (less shipping costs). Yours truly, }Martin Walsh in Vienna,Va. 703 255-6545. } } } } }------------------------------ } }Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 09:05:33 -0400 (EDT) }From: mmeison@scubadiving.com }To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org }Subject: [CR]Masi Pricing. }Message-ID: }<14132.20.137.30.50.1060693533.squirrel@zmail.scubadiving.com> }Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 }MIME-Version: 1.0 }Precedence: list }Message: 8 } }Having just watched the 2 NOS 1972 Masi's sell on e-bay }I was wondering if anyone could tell me how much that }bike would have sold for back in 1972? } }thanks, }Marty Eison }perceptibly cooler in }Dallas, Texas }------------------------------ } }Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 09:24:44 -0400 }From: "lacetera" <lacetera@msti-md.com> }To: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> }Subject: [CR]Crescent Racers }Message-ID: <002a01c360d5$19be2c60$67036ac0@JFL700> }Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" }MIME-Version: 1.0 }Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable }Precedence: list }Message: 9 } }Just found this website. } }My wife and I purchased a pair of new Crescent racers back in }the '70s. = Mine is the 531 alloy and hers is the stainless }steel (SS). The alloy = version weighs 22 lbs and the SS }weighs a pound more, however, the SS = does indeed handle }better under stress. We both raced for a while, and = I }envied her bike even though mine was nice enough. Up until }now we = hadn't used the bikes for over twenty years. Now I }am riding the = Crescents again and thinking about training }enough to race (in my = age-group). } }Hope to hear about other bikes. I will send pictures if that }is = alright. } }Joe L }P. S. We have a few of the posters with the girl in the green }dress on = the orange 531 alloy bike. }------------------------------------------------------------------ }Joseph Lacetera. }MSTI }(443) 417-6187 }www.msti-md.com } } } }--- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative } text/plain (text body -- kept) } text/html }--- }------------------------------ } }Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 06:31:35 -0700 (PDT) }From: Matthew Grimm <matthewgrimm@yahoo.com> }To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org }Subject: [CR]Sears / Campagnolo / 531 bikes }Message-ID: <20030812133135.5542.qmail@web41510.mail.yahoo.com> }Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii }MIME-Version: 1.0 }Precedence: list }Message: 10 } } }I'm happy to see one for these bikes show up. } }I saw one once in 1970. It stopped me in my tracks }then and I've wondered about them since. } }Won't be long now until Sears, Target and Walmart all }sell lugged steel bikes w/ Campy parts, right? :) } }Matthew Grimm }Kogswell Cycles }Rebuilding the past at http://kogswell.com } } } } }__________________________________ }Do you Yahoo!? }Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design }software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com }------------------------------ } }Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 07:14:04 -0700 }From: "Joel Butera" <jb5612@gte.net> }To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> }Subject: [CR]Phil wood brake }Message-ID: <002301c360db$ffdf3b70$d764a8c0@D7NSBQ11> }Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii" }MIME-Version: 1.0 }Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit }Precedence: list }Message: 11 } }Hi all } }I am trying to put a Phil wood Tandem Disc Brake on and }missing the cable barrels } }That fit into the actuators on the brake one is a adjustor the }other a termination end } }Can anyone help or steer me in the right direction } } } }Joel Butera } }Santa Barbara Ca } } } }--- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative } text/plain (text body -- kept) } text/html }--- }------------------------------ } }Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 09:47:22 -0500 }From: David Cooper <dbcooper@rcn.com> }To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org }Subject: [CR]WTB: Cinelli XA stem }Message-ID: <p04320400bb5eae146935@[216.80.74.214]> }Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" }MIME-Version: 1.0 }Precedence: list }Message: 12 } }I am looking for a Cinelli XA stem NOS either 100mm or 90mm. Please }excuse the out of time period request. Thank you. } }David Cooper }Chicago, IL }------------------------------ } }Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:02:38 -0500 }From: airart4@juno.com }To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org }Subject: [CR]Effetibi And Carlton }Message-ID: <20030812.100244.-249111.4.airart4@juno.com> }Content-Type: text/plain }MIME-Version: 1.0 }Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit }Precedence: list }Message: 13 } }Hello, } }I am new to the list and want to say that I have really }enjoyed reading the messages in the archive. I have learned a }lot! I was wondering if anyone knows anything about a frame }called an "Effetibi". I bought it from a person who says he }got it from a person who bought it from Eddie B, the coach for }the US team and he was told that it had been a spare (frame is }NOS) for some South American team in the Pan Am games (late }70s early 80s). Who knows what the truth is. The frame is well }built and is very nicely detailed - has no touring type braze }ons and is set up for short reach brake set. Definitely }appears to be Italian. I can send a photo to anyone who thinks }he might be able to give further information. } }Secondly I have an early 70's Carlton Professional in the }Carlton team colors and was wondering if there is anyone else }out there I can converse with who has the same? In all the }years that I have had this bike (I have had it since I was a }kid) I have yet to see another although there is a pic of a }person cyclocrossing one on the CR site. } }Look forward to your replies, } }Mike Short. } }________________________________________________________________ }The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! }Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - }visit http://www.juno.com to sign up today! }------------------------------ } }Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 11:14:08 -0400 }From: "Kahrl, Michael" <Michael.Kahrl@compuware.com> }To: "'Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org'" <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> }Subject: [CR]Bike Brand Signature Colors }Message-ID: <83B98D01E8D5D41196DB0008C75F74CD1E0A2B@CWUS-DTW-EXT03> }Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" }MIME-Version: 1.0 }Precedence: list }Message: 14 } }As a bike enthusiast from a small town my impressionable young mind was }dazzled the first time I participated in a big century ride. }I saw bikes }in colors that I never imagined existed. In the years that }followed as the bike boom rose I have permanently seared into }my mind's eye colors }associated with particular brands. Did anyone else }experience a similar }thing? Have any of you sought a bike in a particular color }because you can only imagine it one way? Here are some of mine: } }Peugeot: White }Gitane: Purple }Austro Daimler: Black }Raleigh: Green }Falcon: Light Blue } }Michael Kahrl }Columbus, Ohio } } } }The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named }addressee only. It contains information that may be }confidential. Unless you are the named addressee or an }authorized designee, you may not copy or use it, or disclose }it to anyone else. If you received it in error please notify }us immediately and then destroy it. } }------------------------------ } }Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:39:45 -0500 }From: "Raoul Delmare" <Raoul.L.Delmare@worldnet.att.net> }To: "Bruce C." <BruceCumberland@comcast.net>, } <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> }Subject: Re: [CR]Bike Brand Signature Colors }Message-ID: <00a301c360e7$f5f9b340$e64efea9@oemcomputer> }References: <83B98D01E8D5D41196DB0008C75F74CD1E0A2B@CWUS-DTW-EXT03> }Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" }MIME-Version: 1.0 }Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit }Precedence: list }Message: 15 } }Peugeot : White } }Allegro : White with explosive color-fade around the lugs ! } }Gitane : Orange } }Crescent : Orange } }Legnano / Frejus-Legnano : Chartreuse } }Bianchi : the color of a "tornado sky" , green-blue , "Celeste" } }Gios : Gios Blue } }Atala : Blue with White } }Fuji : "Rainbow Blue" or Pearlescent White } }Sterling "Built Like A Watch" : desk-blotter green } }Raleigh : Black , or "Bronze Green" ( a complex color ) , }or "Raleigh Green" ( 1950's & 1960's 3-Speeds ) , or Red , }or Coffee , or "Champagne" , or , now that you mention it . . . } } Raoul Delmare } Marysville Kansas } }----- Original Message ----- }From: "Kahrl, Michael" <Michael.Kahrl@compuware.com> }To: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> }Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:14 AM }Subject: [CR]Bike Brand Signature Colors } } }> As a bike enthusiast from a small town my impressionable }young mind was }> dazzled the first time I participated in a big century ride. } I saw bikes }> in colors that I never imagined existed. In the years that followed }> as }the }> bike boom rose I have permanently seared into my mind's eye colors }> associated with particular brands. Did anyone else }experience a similar }> thing? Have any of you sought a bike in a particular color because }> you }can }> only imagine it one way? Here are some of mine: }> }> Peugeot: White }> Gitane: Purple }> Austro Daimler: Black }> Raleigh: Green }> Falcon: Light Blue }> }> Michael Kahrl }> Columbus, Ohio } } }------------------------------ } }Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 12:02:18 EDT }From: CPOTZ@aol.com }To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org }Subject: [CR]50's gillot frame ? }Message-ID: <5b.3ca1e891.2c6a698a@aol.com> }Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" }MIME-Version: 1.0 }Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit }Precedence: list }Message: 16 } }got a 21'' frame for 27x11/4'' wheels from the dump, ornate }lugwork V similar }to the Gillot on CR (burgundy one) single downtube lever braze }on, single }brazed on cable guide under BB, grease port forward facing in }centre of BB with a }screw in plug, RGB or RGF cast in an oval in the top non drive }side of BB. 2 }pump pegs facing up on downtube and a cable stop under rear }stay ,rear stays }are finely tapered to the end with long dropouts.sweeping }curve to front forks } the fork crown boss is similar to an old raliegh but the }centre point is }longer and finishes in a broadish spearpoint. a front fork }boss for light/ }dynamo? is provided as are mudguard braze ons .headset is }identical to one on CR }cranks are chromed steel 3 arm Williams dated 1957 ring dated }1962 .original }colour appears to be black though no transfers are evident it }is light ish and }serial no is 3016 .....any ideas } } steve.........UK }------------------------------ } }Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 13:09:28 -0400 }From: "Aldo Ross" <swampmtn@siscom.net> }To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> }Subject: [CR]Clarks cable set in bronze }Message-ID: <001501c360f4$7dd7fea0$6cf9fea9@j4g1x1> }Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" }MIME-Version: 1.0 }Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable }Precedence: list }Message: 17 } }Anyone have a Clarks cable set in bronze? I don't want to buy }it, I = just would like to see what it looks like. } }Thanks for any pics. } }Aldo Ross }Middletown, Ohio } } }--- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative } text/plain (text body -- kept) } text/html }--- }------------------------------ } }_______________________________________________ }Classicrendezvous mailing list }Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org }http://www.bikelist.org/mailman/listinfo/classicrendezvou}s } } } }End of Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 8, Issue 28 } }************************************************ }