[CR]re. phil wood brakes
(Example: Production Builders:Teledyne)
From: "
Steve Clark" <
steve@sjscycles.com>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 12:14:29 +0100
In-Reply-To: <CATFOODTblCBA7x5FRp00002b30@catfood.nt.phred.org>
Subject: [CR]re. phil wood brakes
Hi,
have put phil wood brake plus spare disc on e-bay:-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item!87699445
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item!87699448
bidding can start after 10.00bst 16/08/03
regards,
Steve Clarke
St John St Cycles
91-93 St John Street
Bridgwater
Somerset
TA6 5HX
Tel: 01278-441542 (Int ++44-1278-441544)
Fax: 01278 431107 (Int ++44-1278-431107)
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}Today's Topics:
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} 1. Re: OMAS??
} 2. Re: OMAS?? (Chuck Schmidt)
} 3. Hot Rod parts...... (Wayne Davidson)
} 4. WTB WTT Campagnolo SR Ti top mounting bolt (Wayne Davidson)
} 5. Re: Hubs for Jack Taylor Tandem
} (=?iso-8859-1?q?Michael Butler?=)
} 6. Re: Caylor Frame
} 7. Gianni Motta F.S.-sale (Martin O. Walsh)
} 8. Masi Pricing.
} 9. Crescent Racers (lacetera)
} 10. Sears / Campagnolo / 531 bikes (Matthew Grimm)
} 11. Phil wood brake (Joel Butera)
} 12. WTB: Cinelli XA stem (David Cooper)
} 13. Effetibi And Carlton
} 14. Bike Brand Signature Colors (Kahrl, Michael)
} 15. Re: Bike Brand Signature Colors (Raoul Delmare)
} 16. 50's gillot frame ?
} 17. Clarks cable set in bronze (Aldo Ross)
}
}
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}
}Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 01:06:07 EDT
}From: Bikerdaver@aol.com
}To: jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net, tr4play@cox.net,
} Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
}Subject: Re: [CR]OMAS??
}Message-ID: <47.3197c4e4.2c69cfbf@aol.com>
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}Eric-
}I tend to agree with Jerry's input. However, I diverge a bit
}when it comes t= o the AL-alloy quality used by OMAS. It
}was certainly not as hard as Campy, GPM, let alone Shimano
}or Suntour of that era. I found out the hard way that= you
}could scratch the surface of crank arms merely by using your
}fingernail. I d= id however, have great luck with their
}Ti-BBs. Cheers, Dave Anderson Cut Bank MT
}
}In message dated 8/9/03 11:20 PST, jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net writes:
} OMAS made some really "trick" stuff in the early 80's.
}They were a specialist in Ti before it became common. They
}were rumored to have made stuff for Campy. All the OMAS
}stuff I have seen was absolutely top qualit= y. Regards,
}Jerry Moos Houston, TX
}
}----- Original Message -----
}From: "Eric Elman" <tr4play@cox.net>
}To: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
}Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 5:21 AM
}Subject: [CR]OMAS??
}
}> I've recently purchased (2) NOS OMAS BB's from the
}1970's. One has
}> the }Ti
}> spindle and other has a steel spindle. I'd like to hear comments
}> from
}those
}> of you with experience about the quality of the Ti varient.
}> Durable,
}flexy,
}> great, problems??? I'm planning on using it on my Raleigh
}Team Pro
}> in
}place
}> of the worn original Campagnolo SR Ti BB which I have had no luck
}locating.
}>
}> Also, of the two OMAS BB's I purchased, they came with only
}one set of
}cups.
}> Anyone out there have a set of OMAS cups & lockrings in English
}> threads
}that
}> I could buy or trade for?
}>
}> Thanks in advance,
}>
}> Eric Elman
}> Somers, CT
}
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}Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 23:49:40 -0700
}From: Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
}To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
}Subject: Re: [CR]OMAS??
}Message-ID: <3F388DC1.877B76C6@earthlink.net>
}References: <47.3197c4e4.2c69cfbf@aol.com>
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}
}Dave Anderson wrote:
}>
}> I tend to agree with Jerry's input. However, I diverge a bit when it
}> comes to the AL-alloy quality used by OMAS. It was certainly not as
}> hard as Campy, GPM, let alone Shimano or Suntour of that
}era. I found
}> out the hard way that you could scratch the surface of crank arms
}> merely by using your fingernail.
}
}
}Odd. I've never heard of an anodized aluminum alloy that could
}be scratched with a fingernail.
}
}An old thread on the CR list a while back established that
}OMAS, MAVIC and SR cranks were all forged by SR in Japan
}(finished milling done by the individual companies).
}
}I have a set of the OMAS cranks on my mid-70s Wizard (Brian
}Baylis/Michael Howard #16) and two sets of the MAVIC cranks on
}two 1980s Vitus (a 979 and a Carbone 7) that have survived
}being ridden for many years with no scratches to speak of
}(they all have a pearly clear anodized finish).
}
}Chuck Schmidt
}South Pasadena, CA
}
}.
}------------------------------
}
}Date: Tue, 12 Aug 03 19:09:19 +1200
}From: Wayne Davidson <wayne.collect@xtra.co.nz>
}To: "CR BIKE LIST" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
}Subject: [CR]Hot Rod parts......
}Message-ID:
}<20030812070617.IPHG27826.mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz@[210.86.45.204]>
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}
}Hi all, does anyone have any listings for Hot rod parts other
}than OMAS?,
}such as Arnold & Saavedra etc, does not matter if not for Campagnolo,
}just a little project I'm working on......regards wayne
}davidson Invers
}NZ......
}------------------------------
}
}Date: Tue, 12 Aug 03 20:55:56 +1200
}From: Wayne Davidson <wayne.collect@xtra.co.nz>
}To: "CR BIKE LIST" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
}Subject: [CR]WTB WTT Campagnolo SR Ti top mounting bolt
}Message-ID:
}<20030812085258.JPEH27826.mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz@[210.54.80.151]>
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}
}Hi all, I am after a NOS Campagnolo SR Ti top mounting bolt
}#4004. I have
}to trade a #4005 lower mounting bolt that is second hand, not
}perfect but
}still usable, and also to go with it another lower mounting
}bolt, but a
}silver anodized alloy item, no markings, NOT OMAS or
}Campagnolo, and also
}to really sweeten the pot, a NR lower mounting bolt, a little rust but
}not to bad overall, email me direct if able to help at
}all......regards
}wayne davidson Invers NZ.....
}------------------------------
}
}Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 12:09:26 +0100 (BST)
}From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Michael Butler?= <pariscycles@yahoo.co.uk>
}To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
}Subject: Re: [CR]Hubs for Jack Taylor Tandem
}Message-ID: <20030812110926.80144.qmail@web21512.mail.yahoo.com>
}In-Reply-To: <1F47F6AF.1260AC6D.00211578@netscape.net>
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}
}In answer to Paul's Taylor tandem question.This is probably as
}originally supplied. He did also fit Excelto tandem hubs as
}standard then as these were the only easily obtainable tandem
}hubs. Airlight tandem Continentals were just as hard to come
}by in the mid 60's.
}
}
}
}
}
} Be lucky Mick Butler Huntingdon UK.
}
}
}
}
}
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}Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 07:25:45 -0400
}From: LouDeeter@aol.com
}To: johnprescott@mindspring.com, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
}Subject: Re: [CR]Caylor Frame
}Message-ID: <1098CED0.3FDCCBB1.0269AA25@aol.com>
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}
}CAYLOR: 519 Kansas Avenue, Modesto CA 95350.
}
}John, not sure whether this is a current address, but the good
}news is that Modesto isn't that far from you! This is all I
}have in the Used Bike Buyers Guide for Caylor. Lou Deeter, Orlando FL
}------------------------------
}
}Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 08:43:26 -0400
}From: "Martin O. Walsh" <mowalsh@erols.com>
}To: "classicrendezvous@bikelist.org" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
}Subject: [CR]Gianni Motta F.S.-sale
}Message-ID: <3F38E0EE.278DEA02@erols.com>
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}
}Dear C.R. List,
}Frame size: Seat tube 52.5 cm c-t-c. Top tube 53 cm. c-t-c.
}Rear drop outs:126mm.Cost $75.00 plus shipping and insurance.
}I'm selling one Gianni Motta "Personal 2001" frameset and
}chrome fork.The frameset had the decal/stickers removed by the
}previous owner.I sold the frameset to a local bicycle shop and
}the owner removed the decals/stickers-I don't know why.The
}shop owner stripped the bicycle for parts and also removed the
}decals. I bought the frame and fork back and now I'm selling
}the stripped down frame and fork. The frame is from 1982-1984
}as best I can determine.There are two listed on the CR
}website. The paint scheme on this bicycle is pearly white in
}fair condition with two dime size bits of paint missing near
}the seat binder bolt (on rear of down tube and the ears of
}where of the seat binder bolt goes). The chrome is in very
}good condition on frame and fork.Chrome on frame is at the
}"MOTTA" rear dropouts with adjusters (included) and on the
}drive side chain stay and a few inches on drive side seat
}stay. The front fork is all chrome with Campagnola dropouts. I
}rode the bicycle before it was stripped down and it rode very
}well. One lug on the down tube is "pantographed" (factory
}cutout). Seat stays have a plug cap over them particular to
}the Gianni Motta frames with bends in the seat stays at rear
}brake bridge. Braze ons for down tube shifters.One set of
}water bottle braze ons on down tube. Three top tube cable
}guide braze ons.Chromed chain hanger on drive side seat stay
}(about four inches of chrome on the lower portion of seat
}stay). I do not have any digital pictures at the present time.
}If anyone is interested in this bicycle I offer a money back
}guarantee if not satisfied (less shipping costs). Yours truly,
}Martin Walsh in Vienna,Va. 703 255-6545.
}
}
}
}
}------------------------------
}
}Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 09:05:33 -0400 (EDT)
}From: mmeison@scubadiving.com
}To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
}Subject: [CR]Masi Pricing.
}Message-ID:
}<14132.20.137.30.50.1060693533.squirrel@zmail.scubadiving.com>
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}
}Having just watched the 2 NOS 1972 Masi's sell on e-bay
}I was wondering if anyone could tell me how much that
}bike would have sold for back in 1972?
}
}thanks,
}Marty Eison
}perceptibly cooler in
}Dallas, Texas
}------------------------------
}
}Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 09:24:44 -0400
}From: "lacetera" <lacetera@msti-md.com>
}To: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
}Subject: [CR]Crescent Racers
}Message-ID: <002a01c360d5$19be2c60$67036ac0@JFL700>
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}
}Just found this website.
}
}My wife and I purchased a pair of new Crescent racers back in
}the '70s. = Mine is the 531 alloy and hers is the stainless
}steel (SS). The alloy = version weighs 22 lbs and the SS
}weighs a pound more, however, the SS = does indeed handle
}better under stress. We both raced for a while, and = I
}envied her bike even though mine was nice enough. Up until
}now we = hadn't used the bikes for over twenty years. Now I
}am riding the = Crescents again and thinking about training
}enough to race (in my = age-group).
}
}Hope to hear about other bikes. I will send pictures if that
}is = alright.
}
}Joe L
}P. S. We have a few of the posters with the girl in the green
}dress on = the orange 531 alloy bike.
}------------------------------------------------------------------
}Joseph Lacetera.
}MSTI
}(443) 417-6187
}www.msti-md.com
}
}
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}Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 06:31:35 -0700 (PDT)
}From: Matthew Grimm <matthewgrimm@yahoo.com>
}To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
}Subject: [CR]Sears / Campagnolo / 531 bikes
}Message-ID: <20030812133135.5542.qmail@web41510.mail.yahoo.com>
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}
}
}I'm happy to see one for these bikes show up.
}
}I saw one once in 1970. It stopped me in my tracks
}then and I've wondered about them since.
}
}Won't be long now until Sears, Target and Walmart all
}sell lugged steel bikes w/ Campy parts, right? :)
}
}Matthew Grimm
}Kogswell Cycles
}Rebuilding the past at http://kogswell.com
}
}
}
}
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}Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 07:14:04 -0700
}From: "Joel Butera" <jb5612@gte.net>
}To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
}Subject: [CR]Phil wood brake
}Message-ID: <002301c360db$ffdf3b70$d764a8c0@D7NSBQ11>
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}
}Hi all
}
}I am trying to put a Phil wood Tandem Disc Brake on and
}missing the cable barrels
}
}That fit into the actuators on the brake one is a adjustor the
}other a termination end
}
}Can anyone help or steer me in the right direction
}
}
}
}Joel Butera
}
}Santa Barbara Ca
}
}
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}Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 09:47:22 -0500
}From: David Cooper <dbcooper@rcn.com>
}To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
}Subject: [CR]WTB: Cinelli XA stem
}Message-ID: <p04320400bb5eae146935@[216.80.74.214]>
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}
}I am looking for a Cinelli XA stem NOS either 100mm or 90mm. Please
}excuse the out of time period request. Thank you.
}
}David Cooper
}Chicago, IL
}------------------------------
}
}Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:02:38 -0500
}From: airart4@juno.com
}To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
}Subject: [CR]Effetibi And Carlton
}Message-ID: <20030812.100244.-249111.4.airart4@juno.com>
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}
}Hello,
}
}I am new to the list and want to say that I have really
}enjoyed reading the messages in the archive. I have learned a
}lot! I was wondering if anyone knows anything about a frame
}called an "Effetibi". I bought it from a person who says he
}got it from a person who bought it from Eddie B, the coach for
}the US team and he was told that it had been a spare (frame is
}NOS) for some South American team in the Pan Am games (late
}70s early 80s). Who knows what the truth is. The frame is well
}built and is very nicely detailed - has no touring type braze
}ons and is set up for short reach brake set. Definitely
}appears to be Italian. I can send a photo to anyone who thinks
}he might be able to give further information.
}
}Secondly I have an early 70's Carlton Professional in the
}Carlton team colors and was wondering if there is anyone else
}out there I can converse with who has the same? In all the
}years that I have had this bike (I have had it since I was a
}kid) I have yet to see another although there is a pic of a
}person cyclocrossing one on the CR site.
}
}Look forward to your replies,
}
}Mike Short.
}
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}Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 11:14:08 -0400
}From: "Kahrl, Michael" <Michael.Kahrl@compuware.com>
}To: "'Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org'" <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
}Subject: [CR]Bike Brand Signature Colors
}Message-ID: <83B98D01E8D5D41196DB0008C75F74CD1E0A2B@CWUS-DTW-EXT03>
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}
}As a bike enthusiast from a small town my impressionable young mind was
}dazzled the first time I participated in a big century ride.
}I saw bikes
}in colors that I never imagined existed. In the years that
}followed as the bike boom rose I have permanently seared into
}my mind's eye colors
}associated with particular brands. Did anyone else
}experience a similar
}thing? Have any of you sought a bike in a particular color
}because you can only imagine it one way? Here are some of mine:
}
}Peugeot: White
}Gitane: Purple
}Austro Daimler: Black
}Raleigh: Green
}Falcon: Light Blue
}
}Michael Kahrl
}Columbus, Ohio
}
}
}
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}us immediately and then destroy it.
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}------------------------------
}
}Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:39:45 -0500
}From: "Raoul Delmare" <Raoul.L.Delmare@worldnet.att.net>
}To: "Bruce C." <BruceCumberland@comcast.net>,
} <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
}Subject: Re: [CR]Bike Brand Signature Colors
}Message-ID: <00a301c360e7$f5f9b340$e64efea9@oemcomputer>
}References: <83B98D01E8D5D41196DB0008C75F74CD1E0A2B@CWUS-DTW-EXT03>
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}
}Peugeot : White
}
}Allegro : White with explosive color-fade around the lugs !
}
}Gitane : Orange
}
}Crescent : Orange
}
}Legnano / Frejus-Legnano : Chartreuse
}
}Bianchi : the color of a "tornado sky" , green-blue , "Celeste"
}
}Gios : Gios Blue
}
}Atala : Blue with White
}
}Fuji : "Rainbow Blue" or Pearlescent White
}
}Sterling "Built Like A Watch" : desk-blotter green
}
}Raleigh : Black , or "Bronze Green" ( a complex color ) ,
}or "Raleigh Green" ( 1950's & 1960's 3-Speeds ) , or Red ,
}or Coffee , or "Champagne" , or , now that you mention it . . .
}
} Raoul Delmare
} Marysville Kansas
}
}----- Original Message -----
}From: "Kahrl, Michael" <Michael.Kahrl@compuware.com>
}To: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
}Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:14 AM
}Subject: [CR]Bike Brand Signature Colors
}
}
}> As a bike enthusiast from a small town my impressionable
}young mind was
}> dazzled the first time I participated in a big century ride.
} I saw bikes
}> in colors that I never imagined existed. In the years that followed
}> as
}the
}> bike boom rose I have permanently seared into my mind's eye colors
}> associated with particular brands. Did anyone else
}experience a similar
}> thing? Have any of you sought a bike in a particular color because
}> you
}can
}> only imagine it one way? Here are some of mine:
}>
}> Peugeot: White
}> Gitane: Purple
}> Austro Daimler: Black
}> Raleigh: Green
}> Falcon: Light Blue
}>
}> Michael Kahrl
}> Columbus, Ohio
}
}
}------------------------------
}
}Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 12:02:18 EDT
}From: CPOTZ@aol.com
}To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
}Subject: [CR]50's gillot frame ?
}Message-ID: <5b.3ca1e891.2c6a698a@aol.com>
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}
}got a 21'' frame for 27x11/4'' wheels from the dump, ornate
}lugwork V similar
}to the Gillot on CR (burgundy one) single downtube lever braze
}on, single
}brazed on cable guide under BB, grease port forward facing in
}centre of BB with a
}screw in plug, RGB or RGF cast in an oval in the top non drive
}side of BB. 2
}pump pegs facing up on downtube and a cable stop under rear
}stay ,rear stays
}are finely tapered to the end with long dropouts.sweeping
}curve to front forks
} the fork crown boss is similar to an old raliegh but the
}centre point is
}longer and finishes in a broadish spearpoint. a front fork
}boss for light/
}dynamo? is provided as are mudguard braze ons .headset is
}identical to one on CR
}cranks are chromed steel 3 arm Williams dated 1957 ring dated
}1962 .original
}colour appears to be black though no transfers are evident it
}is light ish and
}serial no is 3016 .....any ideas
}
} steve.........UK
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}Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 13:09:28 -0400
}From: "Aldo Ross" <swampmtn@siscom.net>
}To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
}Subject: [CR]Clarks cable set in bronze
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}Anyone have a Clarks cable set in bronze? I don't want to buy
}it, I = just would like to see what it looks like.
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}Thanks for any pics.
}
}Aldo Ross
}Middletown, Ohio
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