[CR]re.omas
(Example: Racing:Beryl Burton)
From: "
Steve Clark" <
steve@sjscycles.com>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 12:29:03 +0100
In-Reply-To: <CATFOODvJVzJKbMsKRx00002b86@catfood.nt.phred.org>
Subject: [CR]re.omas
folks,
regarding OMAS components,the following items may be of interest:
#3333BLK Omas-Saba alloy 1 inch threaded anodised black headset,25.4 x
24 tpi (Italian thread ) . CAUTION ! Can only achieve a class B fit on
english thread ( 26 tpi ) forks. @£21.26 ex vat
#3333BLU Omas-Saba alloy 1 inch threaded anodised blue headset,25.4 x 24
tpi (Italian thread ) . CAUTION ! Can only achieve a class B fit on
english thread ( 26 tpi ) forks. @£21.26 ex vat
#3333RED Omas-Saba alloy 1 inch threaded anodised red headset,25.4 x 24
tpi (Italian thread ) . CAUTION ! Can only achieve a class B fit on
english thread ( 26 tpi ) forks. @£21.26 ex vat
Carriage to USA approx £10.00 for up to 6 headsets.
regards,
Steve Clarke
St John St Cycles
91-93 St John Street
Bridgwater
Somerset
TA6 5HX
Tel: 01278-441542 (Int ++44-1278-441544)
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}Today's Topics:
}
} 1. Phil Wood Disc Brake (Paul Haussler)
} 2. Campy #660 braze-on control boss - repair or should I replace?
} (Steve Neago)
} 3. RE: Campy #660 braze-on control boss - repair or should I
} replace? (David Bilenkey)
} 4. FW: Pump parts? (David Bilenkey)
} 5. Re: Campy #660 braze-on control boss - repair or should I
} replace? (Steve Neago)
} 6. Re: Caylor Frame (Matthew Grimm)
} 7. Cool Peugeot (wayofftheback)
} 8. possibly good deal on a Raleigh GS on E-Bay (wayofftheback)
} 9. WTB Delta brake blocks (Mark Stevens)
} 10. Electa saddle came today (Tom Sanders)
} 11. British Eagle- 1980's Frame builder (Phil)
} 12. Wanted / Trade : Campy Skewer, Flat (Donald Gillies)
} 13. Re: Bike Brand Signature Colors (Joe Starck)
} 14. Re: Phil Wood Disc Brake (Joe Bender-Zanoni)
} 15. Re: British Eagle- 1980's Frame builder (Joe Bender-Zanoni)
} 16. Re: Bike Brand Signature Colors (jerrymoos)
} 17. Hubs for Jack Taylor Tandem (HM & SS Sachs)
} 18. re: Phil wood brake (HM & SS Sachs)
}
}
}----------------------------------------------------------------------
}
}Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 12:31:28 -0700
}From: "Paul Haussler" <paulhaussler@earthlink.net>
}To: <jb5612@gte.net>
}Cc: tandem@hobbes.ucsd.edu
}Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
}Subject: [CR]Phil Wood Disc Brake
}Message-ID: <003001c36108$53fc9280$911bf4d8@q>
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}Reply-To: Paul Haussler <paulhaussler@earthlink.net>
}Message: 1
}
}Joel,
}
}I'm new to the list, but have heard a lot of criticism over
}the years about the Phil Disc Brake. I can appreciate
}installing one to restore a classic bike, but I would not want
}to rely on it to stop a tandem.
}
}Someone on the Tandem@Hobbes list may have some ideas. E-mail
}me if you need a link.
}
}Tailwinds,
}
}Paul Haussler,
}Huntington Beach
}1988 Trek (Tupperware and aluminum)
}1992 Dave Moulton Custom Fuso Luxe
}1997 Santana Arriva
}
}------------------------------
}
}Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 07:14:04 -0700
}From: "Joel Butera" <jb5612@gte.net>
}To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
}Subject: [CR]Phil wood brake
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}
}Hi all
}
}I am trying to put a Phil wood Tandem Disc Brake on and
}missing the cable barrels
}
}That fit into the actuators on the brake one is a adjustor the
}other a termination end
}
}Can anyone help or steer me in the right direction
}
}
}
}Joel Butera
}
}Santa Barbara Ca
}
}------------------------------
}
}Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 15:37:32 -0400
}From: "Steve Neago" <questor@cinci.rr.com>
}To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
}Subject: [CR]Campy #660 braze-on control boss - repair or
}should I replace?
}Message-ID: <001501c36109$2f874520$03000004@cinci.rr.com>
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}
}Hello,
}
}I have a Raleigh Team Pro frameset with a Campy #660 control
}boss that = needs minor repair. Apparently, the previous
}owner managed to strip the = threads on the right side control
}boss by inserting misalligned the = #604/1 adjusting wing nut.
} The result is that the downtube shifter wing = nut will screw
}in, but not tighten properly & causes unwanted gear = changes.
}
}Do you have any suggestions on how I repair/redo the control
}boss = threads without having to repalce the complete control
}boss? I can = purchase a metric tap set, but the original
}threads are probably too = loose. I do not want to have to
}glue the adjusting wing nut into the = control boss. Also, I
}prefer not to use handlebar fingertip shifters.
}
}Any suggestions?
}
}Thanks, Steve Neago
}Cincinnati, OH
}
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}Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 15:45:17 -0400
}From: "David Bilenkey" <dbilenkey@sympatico.ca>
}To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
}Subject: RE: [CR]Campy #660 braze-on control boss - repair or should I
} replace?
}Message-ID: <HBECIOPCNPKEJLCJBKNKMEPFGKAA.dbilenkey@sympatico.ca>
}In-Reply-To: <001501c36109$2f874520$03000004@cinci.rr.com>
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}Message: 3
}
}Couldn't you repair the threads with a Helicoil? Or is it some
}obscure threading?
}
}http://www.emhart.com/products/helicoil.html
}
}I've used lots of them over the years, on all sorts of things,
}I think the last one was on stripped threads on an early 60's
}Campy FD cable clamping bolt hole.
}
}David Bilenkey
}Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
}
}
}> -----Original Message-----
}> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
}> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org]On Behalf Of Steve
}> Neago
}> Sent: August 12, 2003 3:38 PM
}> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
}> Subject: [CR]Campy #660 braze-on control boss - repair or should I
}> replace?
}>
}>
}> Hello,
}>
}> I have a Raleigh Team Pro frameset with a Campy #660 control
}boss that
}> needs minor repair. Apparently, the previous owner managed to strip
}> the threads on the right side control boss by inserting misalligned
}> the #604/1 adjusting wing nut. The result is that the downtube
}> shifter wing nut will screw in, but not tighten properly & causes
}> unwanted gear changes.
}>
}> Do you have any suggestions on how I repair/redo the control boss
}> threads without having to repalce the complete control boss? I can
}> purchase a metric tap set, but the original threads are probably too
}> loose. I do not want to have to glue the adjusting wing nut
}into the
}> control boss. Also, I prefer not to use handlebar fingertip
}shifters.
}>
}> Any suggestions?
}>
}> Thanks, Steve Neago
}> Cincinnati, OH
}
}
}------------------------------
}
}Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 15:52:36 -0400
}From: "David Bilenkey" <dbilenkey@sympatico.ca>
}To: "Classicrendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
}Subject: [CR]FW: Pump parts?
}Message-ID: <HBECIOPCNPKEJLCJBKNKGEPGGKAA.dbilenkey@sympatico.ca>
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}Message: 4
}
}Has anyone on the list heard of this before? If you can offer
}any info or advice on what to do I'll pass responses on to my friend.
}
}Thanks in advance,
}
}David Bilenkey
}Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
}
}
}-----Original Message-----
}From: Simpson, Bob
}Sent: August 5, 2003 11:07 AM
}To: David Bilenkey (E-mail)
}Subject: Pump parts
}
}
}Hi David,
}
}A friend at work has what looks like an antique bicycle pump,
}which has a cylinder around the outside with desiccating
}material so that the air pumped is dry. It was actually
}discarded from the NRC, so it might not have been originally
}designed for bikes. It's called an Andrews 876-A pump and has
}a barrel 34 mm in diameter. Have you ever heard of such a
}pump and do you have any sources for replacement pump parts?
}The leather washer/plunger has torn.
}
}Bob Simpson
}
}
}------------------------------
}
}Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:12:54 -0400
}From: "Steve Neago" <questor@cinci.rr.com>
}To: <dbilenkey@sympatico.ca>
}Cc: classicrendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
}Subject: Re: [CR]Campy #660 braze-on control boss - repair or should I
} replace?
}Message-ID: <000701c3610e$2090c1e0$cbb71b18@cinci.rr.com>
}References: <HBECIOPCNPKEJLCJBKNKMEPFGKAA.dbilenkey@sympatico.ca>
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}
}Hi Dave,
}
}Thanks for the idea, but the wing nut must be inserted firmly
}into the control boss so there is no slip. I am concerned
}that the insert springs you suggest will require me to
}re-drill the hole to accomodate the spring size and that the
}spring will not allow wing nut to be completely tightened and
}will cause slip.
}
}Does anyone know if there is a soft-metal insert that can bond
}to the frame boss so I can re-tap the hole? I think that lead
}solder is way too soft and will not adhere properly for this...
}
}Regards, Steve Neago
}Cincinnati, OH
}
}----- Original Message -----
}From: "David Bilenkey" <dbilenkey@sympatico.ca>
}To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
}Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 3:45 PM
}Subject: RE: [CR]Campy #660 braze-on control boss - repair or
}should I replace?
}
}
}> Couldn't you repair the threads with a Helicoil? Or is it
}some obscure
}> threading?
}>
}> http://www.emhart.com/products/helicoil.html
}>
}> I've used lots of them over the years, on all sorts of
}things, I think
}> the last one was on stripped threads on an early 60's Campy FD cable
}> clamping bolt hole.
}>
}> David Bilenkey
}> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
}>
}>
}> > -----Original Message-----
}> > From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
}> > [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org]On Behalf Of Steve
}> > Neago
}> > Sent: August 12, 2003 3:38 PM
}> > To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
}> > Subject: [CR]Campy #660 braze-on control boss - repair or should I
}> > replace?
}> >
}> >
}> > Hello,
}> >
}> > I have a Raleigh Team Pro frameset with a Campy #660 control boss
}> > that needs minor repair. Apparently, the previous owner
}managed to
}> > strip the threads on the right side control boss by inserting
}> > misalligned the #604/1 adjusting wing nut. The result is that the
}> > downtube shifter wing nut will screw in, but not tighten
}properly &
}> > causes unwanted gear changes.
}> >
}> > Do you have any suggestions on how I repair/redo the control boss
}> > threads without having to repalce the complete control
}boss? I can
}> > purchase a metric tap set, but the original threads are
}probably too
}> > loose. I do not want to have to glue the adjusting wing nut into
}> > the control boss. Also, I prefer not to use handlebar fingertip
}> > shifters.
}> >
}> > Any suggestions?
}> >
}> > Thanks, Steve Neago
}> > Cincinnati, OH
}>
}>
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}
}------------------------------
}
}Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 13:15:57 -0700 (PDT)
}From: Matthew Grimm <matthewgrimm@yahoo.com>
}To: johnprescott@mindspring.com
}Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
}Subject: Re: [CR]Caylor Frame
}Message-ID: <20030812201557.70191.qmail@web41502.mail.yahoo.com>
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}MIME-Version: 1.0
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}Message: 6
}
}
}The builder's name is Gunnar Caylor.
}
}He started building in Modesto around '69. He was a
}mechanic at a local Schwinn dealer and he built frames
}on the side.
}
}I remember his work being very clean. And the decals
}were crisp and clean too.
}
}I saw him about seven or eight years ago.
}
}I'm gonna be in Modesto on Friday. If you'd like, I
}can try to run him down for you.
}
}Email me off list if you'd like to know anything
}specific.
}
}All the best,
}
}Matthew Grimm
}Kogswell Cycles
}http://kogswell.com
}
}
}
}
}
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}
}Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 14:23:17 -0700 (PDT)
}From: wayofftheback <wayofftheback@yahoo.com>
}To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
}Subject: [CR]Cool Peugeot
}Message-ID: <20030812212317.81962.qmail@web20106.mail.yahoo.com>
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}Message: 7
}
}Being sold by Cyclo 24--not I, no relation to me
}
}Here it is http://tinyurl.com/jten
}
}or
}
}http://ebay.com/<blah>
}ategoryr98
}
}Regards,
}
}John Taglia
}Chicago
}
}==}John Taglia
}Chicago, Illinois
}
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}
}Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 14:42:16 -0700 (PDT)
}From: wayofftheback <wayofftheback@yahoo.com>
}To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
}Subject: [CR]possibly good deal on a Raleigh GS on E-Bay
}Message-ID: <20030812214216.5221.qmail@web20105.mail.yahoo.com>
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}Message: 8
}
}No relation, not mine
}
}http://ebay.com/<blah>
}ndexURL=1&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting
}
}Regards,
}
}John Taglia
}Chicago
}
}==}John Taglia
}Chicago, Illinois
}
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}
}Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 22:44:42 +0100
}From: "Mark Stevens" <mountgerald@btopenworld.com>
}To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
}Subject: [CR]WTB Delta brake blocks
}Message-ID: <003b01c3611a$f80f6bb0$df468351@DJN4ZQ0J>
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}
}Hi all, just out of time line but here goes. I spent the
}afternoon stripping and cleaning a pair of Campagnolo Delta
}brakes. These things are incredible. I am looking forward to
}riding the aero framed Holdsworth (circa 1983) with them
}fitted, it'll be a first. I desperately need 2 pairs of brake
}blocks to finish it all off. Can anyone help,please? Mark
}Stevens in hot Scotland.
}
}
}------------------------------
}
}Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 17:45:43 -0400
}From: "Tom Sanders" <tsan7759142@comcast.net>
}To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
}Subject: [CR]Electa saddle came today
}Message-ID: <000e01c3611b$187ca8e0$49f0f50c@C1921978A>
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}Reply-To: Tom Sanders <tsan7759142@comcast.net>
}Message: 10
}
}The NOS Campy Electa saddle I had purchased came today. I
}have taken = some pics of the underside, etc. that are not
}normally seen. If anyone = is curious about it, I'll forward
}you some J-Pegs. Drop me a line off = line if interested. Tom
}Sanders Lansing, Mi
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}Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 17:55:20 -0400
}From: "Phil" <pdscott@gte.net>
}To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
}Subject: [CR]British Eagle- 1980's Frame builder
}Message-ID: <001301c3611c$6e18bf40$1b88e943@5dstx>
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}
}Anyone know who built the british eagle bikes in the late
}80's? I know Falcon or Townsend owns the name now!
}
}Phil Scott
}Clatyon,Ohio
}
}------------------------------
}
}Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 15:54:25 -0700 (PDT)
}From: Donald Gillies <gillies@cs.ubc.ca>
}To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
}Subject: [CR]Wanted / Trade : Campy Skewer, Flat
}Message-ID: <200308122254.PAA11772@cascade.cs.ubc.ca>
}Precedence: list
}Message: 12
}
}Hi, I have a mismatched pair of low-flange campy hubs, and I'm
}looking for someone else with a similar problem.
}
}Wanted : one flat (pre-1977) front campy skewer in decent condition.
}
}Offer : (a) $15.00
} (b) I can trade a used curved one + $5.00 for your flat one.
} (c) I can trade a NOS curved one for your flat one.
} (d) I can trade an entire NOS low-flange front hub, you give
} me $20 and the flat skewer.
}
}- Don Gillies
}San Diego, CA
}------------------------------
}
}Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 15:59:51 -0700 (PDT)
}From: Joe Starck <josephbstarck@yahoo.com>
}To: "Kahrl, Michael" <Michael.Kahrl@compuware.com>
}Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
}Subject: Re: [CR]Bike Brand Signature Colors
}Message-ID: <20030812225951.76719.qmail@web42003.mail.yahoo.com>
}In-Reply-To: <83B98D01E8D5D41196DB0008C75F74CD1E0A2B@CWUS-DTW-EXT03>
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}
}Michael asked, "Have any of you sought a bike in a particular
}color because you can only imagine it one way?"
}
}Yes. A one-of-a-kind, Joe Starck-built beam bike lost
}somewhere near downtown San Diego: Black with white "Starck"
}decals on down tube. The last time I saw it, it was Moonlit Black.
}
}- Joe Starck, Sun Prairie, Wisconsin
}
}
}
}
}
}
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}Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 19:02:37 -0400
}From: Joe Bender-Zanoni <joebz@optonline.net>
}To: Paul Haussler <paulhaussler@earthlink.net>, jb5612@gte.net
}Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
}Subject: Re: [CR]Phil Wood Disc Brake
}Message-ID: <004701c36125$d40e5860$6400a8c0@jfbender>
}References: <003001c36108$53fc9280$911bf4d8@q>
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}
}Supposedly the composite disks shatter.
}
}I had one I contemplated putting on my old Santana tandem to
}replace a clunky but effective Shimano unit.
}
}I called Phil and they refused to discuss the unit or provide
}the instruction sheet. They simply said they do not support of
}give any advice about the disk brake. Sounds like a lawsuit
}settlement condition to me.
}
}So I stuck with the good ol' Shimano.
}
}Joe Bender-Zanoni
}Great Notch, NJ
}----- Original Message -----
}From: "Paul Haussler" <paulhaussler@earthlink.net>
}To: <jb5612@gte.net>
}Cc: <tandem@hobbes.ucsd.edu>; <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
}Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 3:31 PM
}Subject: [CR]Phil Wood Disc Brake
}
}
}> Joel,
}>
}> I'm new to the list, but have heard a lot of criticism over the years
}about
}> the Phil Disc Brake. I can appreciate installing one to restore a
}> classic bike, but I would not want to rely on it to stop a tandem.
}>
}> Someone on the Tandem@Hobbes list may have some ideas. E-mail me if
}> you need a link.
}>
}> Tailwinds,
}>
}> Paul Haussler,
}> Huntington Beach
}> 1988 Trek (Tupperware and aluminum)
}> 1992 Dave Moulton Custom Fuso Luxe
}> 1997 Santana Arriva
}>
}> ------------------------------
}>
}> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 07:14:04 -0700
}> From: "Joel Butera" <jb5612@gte.net>
}> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
}> Subject: [CR]Phil wood brake
}> Message-ID: <002301c360db$ffdf3b70$d764a8c0@D7NSBQ11>
}> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii"
}> MIME-Version: 1.0
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}> Message: 11
}>
}> Hi all
}>
}> I am trying to put a Phil wood Tandem Disc Brake on and missing the
}> cable barrels
}>
}> That fit into the actuators on the brake one is a adjustor
}the other a
}> termination end
}>
}> Can anyone help or steer me in the right direction
}>
}>
}>
}> Joel Butera
}>
}> Santa Barbara Ca
}>
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}Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 19:07:19 -0400
}From: Joe Bender-Zanoni <joebz@optonline.net>
}To: Phil <pdscott@gte.net>, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
}Subject: Re: [CR]British Eagle- 1980's Frame builder
}Message-ID: <006001c36126$7ba3f4e0$6400a8c0@jfbender>
}References: <001301c3611c$6e18bf40$1b88e943@5dstx>
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}
}Maybe Falcon. Falcon had a second line on display at the New
}York show about 1975. This second line had the first powder
}coated finish I had heard of and they were beating sample
}tubes together to show it wouldn't chip.
}
}Joe B-Z
}Great Notch, NJ
}
}
}----- Original Message -----
}From: "Phil" <pdscott@gte.net>
}To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
}Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 5:55 PM
}Subject: [CR]British Eagle- 1980's Frame builder
}
}
}> Anyone know who built the british eagle bikes in the late
}80's? I know
}> Falcon or Townsend owns the name now!
}>
}> Phil Scott
}> Clatyon,Ohio
}>
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}Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 18:17:01 -0500
}From: "jerrymoos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
}To: "Kahrl, Michael" <Michael.Kahrl@compuware.com>,
} <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
}Subject: Re: [CR]Bike Brand Signature Colors
}Message-ID: <004401c36127$d71da950$efddfea9@mooshome>
}References: <83B98D01E8D5D41196DB0008C75F74CD1E0A2B@CWUS-DTW-EXT03>
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}
}Holdsworth orange and blue
}Paramount all chrome
}Crescent stainless steel
}LeJeune blood red
}Colnago international orange
}Raleigh Pro mink blue and silver
}Cinellli silver
}Mercier pink
}Legnano "Legnano green"
}Bianchi celeste (so called)
}Torpado real celeste
}Flandria red
}Gios "Gios blue"
}
}The list goes on...
}
}Regards,
}
}Jerry Moos
}Houston, TX
}
}
}----- Original Message -----
}From: "Kahrl, Michael" <Michael.Kahrl@compuware.com>
}To: <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
}Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:14 AM
}Subject: [CR]Bike Brand Signature Colors
}
}
}> As a bike enthusiast from a small town my impressionable
}young mind was
}> dazzled the first time I participated in a big century ride.
} I saw bikes
}> in colors that I never imagined existed. In the years that followed
}> as
}the
}> bike boom rose I have permanently seared into my mind's eye colors
}> associated with particular brands. Did anyone else
}experience a similar
}> thing? Have any of you sought a bike in a particular color because
}> you
}can
}> only imagine it one way? Here are some of mine:
}>
}> Peugeot: White
}> Gitane: Purple
}> Austro Daimler: Black
}> Raleigh: Green
}> Falcon: Light Blue
}>
}> Michael Kahrl
}> Columbus, Ohio
}>
}>
}>
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}Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 19:37:05 -0400
}From: HM & SS Sachs <sachs@erols.com>
}To: raleypc@netscape.net, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
}Subject: [CR]Hubs for Jack Taylor Tandem
}Message-ID: <3F397A21.1050403@erols.com>
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}Paul Raley wrote:
}
}Does anyone know what hubs would have been originally
}specified for a 1965 Jack Taylor Sports Tandem? When I bought
}mine as a basket case several years ago it came with a Campy
}36h track front hub and an Atom 36h drum brake rear. I built
}it up this way but suspected that they were not original as
}the Atom hub was laced to a steel Schwinn 27" rim! In any
}case, I would like to switch to a conventional rear hub (the
}drum brake makes flat repair a chore) and would rather not
}spend the $$$ for a Campy rear track to match the front if it
}was not original! Any suggestions?
}
}-------------
}
}I first worked on one of these about '69, a bit younger, but
}brand new. That one still had the old-style
}chain-stay-mounted rear derailleur (the kind with a door
}spring to under the BB for tension). So, they were no slaves
}to racer fads... I don't think you could do wrong with either
}Campy road HF, or, better, Airlite Continentals (good luck
}finding them).
}
}Fashions change, and brakes have improved, but I personally
}have always cherished the redundancy of having a decent hub
}brake as well as a pair of rim brakes on the tandem. For 1965,
}that leaves few choices if you want to be original. One dead
}give-away of an un-original Atom hub would be if your
}freewheels feel very loose going on (French thread). Another
}would be humongous spoke holes -- and I'd expect 40 holes on a
}proper British tandem of the age. And Jack Taylor build
}proper tandems.
}
}harvey sachs
}mcLean va
}
}
}------------------------------
}
}Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 20:05:26 -0400
}From: HM & SS Sachs <sachs@erols.com>
}To: jb5612@gte.net, Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
}Subject: re: [CR]Phil wood brake
}Message-ID: <3F3980C6.70903@erols.com>
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}
}Joel Butera wrote:
}Hi all
}
}I am trying to put a Phil wood Tandem Disc Brake on and
}missing the cable barrels
}
}That fit into the actuators on the brake one is a adjustor the
}other a termination end
}
}Can anyone help or steer me in the right direction.
}
}=====}My salvage box of hub brakes has 3 Phils in it -- but NONE of the
}adjustors or terminators. Bummer. What I do have is a copy
}of the Phil
}instructions, which I can copy and mail to anyone who sends a SSAE. I
}can also take a picture of the fittings on our Cannondale
}tandem, which
}still uses a Phil.
}
}Please remember that all but the very last of the Phil brakes used an
}unreinforced fibre disk. I've been on one tandem with the earlier
}brake, when the splines gave way on a hard downhill. A bit
}disconcerting, but the rim brakes worked. I also have one of the last
}series, with a metal-reinforced disk -- completely fried by friends.
}
}Sooo, to me the Morals are pretty simple: The Phil is elegantly
}designed and made, more like a clutch and pressure plate
}assembly from a
}car than a customary disk brake. It must be treated gently,
}and should
}not be relied on for more than light drag applications. It is
}extinct,
}and I suspect that parts are all-but-unavailable. Peter Jon White had
}one of the last batch of 8 ever made. Besides that, it is the only
}"disk" type brake that I have ever used that was as awkward as a drum.
} Modern disks, and the old Shimano E, left all the adjustable thingees
}on the frame, and just the disk dropped out with the wheel.
}Be careful
}for what you wish for: I wanted a Phil brake for years, and have not
}been as pleased as with their other products.
}
}
}harvey sachs
}mcLean VA.
}
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