[CR]Information Help Please , Raleigh U.S.A. , Grand Prix , Super Course , Competition

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From: "Raoul Delmare" <Raoul.L.Delmare@worldnet.att.net>
To: "C.R. List" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, "Bruce C." <BruceCumberland@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 09:25:09 -0500
Subject: [CR]Information Help Please , Raleigh U.S.A. , Grand Prix , Super Course , Competition

Hello ,

I've been a fan of the made-in-Nottingham-England Raleigh bicycles , most of my life . In the past few years I've been appreciating the Raleigh U.S.A. bicycles a bit more .

( of course I've always appreciated the Team 753 & 531 bicycles , whether made in England by / for Raleigh England , or made in England for Raleigh U.S.A. )

I have four serious questions . But I'm not sure how to ask them .

There was a particular "generation" or "time-period" of Raleigh bicycles , made in Asia , for Raleigh U.S.A . Every time I see one , or a photo of one , I INSTANTLY recognize it . But , what should I call this style ? And are they later than 1983 ? ( if so I apologize , and I'd be grateful if you'd contact me off-list )

I'll describe them below . You'll probably know the ones I'm asking about .

All of the ones I'm asking about were all-lugged , all-steel , with no aluminum in the frames .

My four big questions are :

1.) When were these made ???

2.) Where were these made ( Nippon , Taiwan R.O.C. , or . . . ) ???

3.) What was the size range ??? I've decided I'd like to buy one . Since I don't know the range of sizes , I don't know what size to look for & wait for .

4.) Were the frames actually different ( Grand Prix & Super Course & Competition ) ??? Or were the only differences in the paint , decals , and the components hanging on the frames ???

Description :

The Grand Prix bicycles were chrome and red .

The Super Course bicycles were chrome and blue ( light blue , medium blue , or deep purple-ish blue ) .

The Competition bicycles were chrome and white .

The tubing was "Raleigh 555" . The tubing decals were obviously just attempts to mimic Reynolds 531 decals . Sometimes there were even triangular decals for the fork blades , still with "Raleigh 555" .

There was at least as much chrome as paint . The front fork was all-chrome . The head tube was chrome , with the big Raleigh U.S.A. badge on it . The seat stays and chain stays were chrome .

The Raleigh name was built into those frames . It was probably all done by stamping the name into the steel . There was certainly a lot of it . The Raleigh name or symbol was in the drop-outs , in the fork crown , and in the seat-stay-caps ( top-eyes ) .

And of course , the Raleigh name was all over the components . The Asian-made derailleurs , and the cranks , and the stems , and maybe even the brakes , were all "Raleigh" .

Here are photos of a large-size Super Course , which was for sale on eBay :

http://ebay.com/<blah>

( I meant to write this message while that auction was still going on - but I got distracted )

Can anyone help me out , in trying to understanding these bicycles ???

Thanks !!!

Raoul Delmare
Marysville Kansas