RE: [CR]tullio sticker

(Example: Framebuilders:Alex Singer)

From: "Jim Cunningham" <Cyclartist@cox.net>
To: "'Fred Rafael Rednor'" <fred_rednor@yahoo.com>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, <b.b.simon@att.net>
Subject: RE: [CR]tullio sticker
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 23:06:12 -0800
In-Reply-To: <20031223002143.6941.qmail@web11901.mail.yahoo.com>
cc: shop@cyclart.com

RE: > Maybe someone on the list might know the answer to this one; I have an
> atala from the seventies that has a sticker that says genuine
> Tullio steel tubing;
> does this mean Tullio Campagnolo built this bike? maybe he
> had a stash of
> tubing and he put his sticker on each frame set? I showed it
> to Jim
> Cunningham at CyclArt and he said he had never seen this
> decal before but
> that my atala had a rare steel Campy cotterless crank.

What I said to Burl, was that I had not DONE this decal. Meaning I've not reproduced it. The bike is a midline bike and I've not had anyone (yet) that much cared to replicate a tubing decal for high tensile steel.

If Burl had expressed his fantasy about Tullio Campagnolo's stash of tubing while he was here I'd have set him straight...

I did praise the bike's crank set as it's tastiest feature. In my opinion they are rare here in the US. Perhaps they were made in some quantity, but they had a shorter run than any other Vintage Campy crank design. I think they are beautiful but we rarely see them at CyclArt. When we have them on display or on our online store they often draw comments from others who have never seen one. We've probably sold over 200 Nuovo Record crank sets and perhaps 5 of the steel Campy Gran Sports. I've never seen one in an OEM package. Fred Radnor's post confirms that although he's also seen many Atalas like Burl's (yes they were popular in LA too) Burl's bike is only the first we've seen with this crank. Obviously, this is no first generation Record crankset, but I think it is rare enough, to point out as a nice feature on Burl's bike.

Jim Cunningham President, CyclArt, Inc. Vista, CA

-----Original Message----- From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Fred Rafael Rednor Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 4:22 PM To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: Re: [CR]tullio sticker

Burl,
      To quote the '73 Atala catalogue, the Tullio material is "high tensile seamless tubing". All the later versions of the Gran Prix model (at least all the ones that I used to see) had these stickers. This was teh Gran Prix that used stamped dropouts instead of the forged Campy 1010s and Valentino derailleurs instead of Nuovo Record. There still must be hundreds of these bikes in NYC, since one of the importers of Atala in those days was Stuyvesant/Corso. Were these bikes common is LA, as well?
     On the other hand, your's would be the first of these things I've heard about that used the steel Campy crankset. Even the earlier version of the Gran Prix (i.e. the one with Columbus SP tubing, Campy 1010s, NR deraillers and NR hubs) used a cottered Magistroni crank. But then, it is reputed that this crankset was made for Campy by Magistroni. I don't know about that for sure but I certainly do wish I had one for my Atala.
     Best regards,
     Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia