Re: [CR]Colnago/Masi Comparison

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 23:07:38 +0100
From: "renaissance-cycles" <info@renaissance-cycles.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Colnago/Masi Comparison
To: jerrymoos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
References: <0b4501c40df5$e0bfc7b0$efddfea9@mooshome>


Yep! BUSINESS IS BUSINESS with Ernesto!

A new and up coming Semi Pro Dutch team was being formed! There were going to ride for GIANNI MOTTA! Ernesto came along and offered twice the Money that GIANNI was going do dish out!........Of course they said yes to Ernesto and left GIANNI with nothing! Since this was a Semi Pro gig of which a single Marque could not be fielded more than once for any race!...So what did Ernesto do, he handed them Saronni.

Also!...............Riders who rode for the SUPER CONFLEX COLNAGO team! They reported directy to Ernesto not to SUPER CONFLEX! They the riders were not paid by SUPER CONFLEX, Ernesto paid them directly! This came first hand from a former rider of which I don't think he would want me to mention his name. He and others called Ernesto,............The Mafia man!...............They still laugh about these moments.

On another note! '80s PDM squad goes to Sicily to race! They stay at a villa with machine gun carrying goons!.......Man walks up to a PDM guy!......Hand him a briefcase full of money and says this rider must win!......End of story and race. PDM was there for the whether and maybe some serious training. The guy that is handed the money is my friends uncle..My friend is a PDM wrench! Thats...............Business!

Sound like business as usual, money, control and power!.........Just me coming out of left field!

BC Baron C.................And the gang!!.................On our way home! Renaissance cycles, Eindhoven Holland.


----- Original Message -----
From: jerrymoos
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 10:05 PM
Subject: Fw: [CR]Colnago/Masi Comparison



>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jerrymoos" <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Richard M Sachs" <richardsachs@juno.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 2:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [CR]Colnago/Masi Comparison
>
>
> > As I said, Ernesto Colnago NEVER made profit the ONLY motive. I was
> > responding to the proposition that the business of business is business.
> > That propostion leads to post-Schwinn-family Schwinns and ultimately to
> > Enrons.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jerry "can extrapolate with the best" Moos
> > Houston, TX
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Richard M Sachs" <richardsachs@juno.com>
> > To: <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
> > Cc: <Grant.McLean@SportingLife.ca>; <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> > Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 1:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CR]Colnago/Masi Comparison
> >
> >
> > > jerr-issimo
> > > that is some serious extrapolating to that metaphorical
> > > exponential end you got goin' on!! i wasn't even thinking
> > > about the motives of the current day owners of "brands"
> > > and/or producers of these goods. i thought we were discussing
> > > how folks from "then" who were once, in your word, "artistes"
> > > somehow traded their motivation for "business". you mentioned
> > > colnago. somehow his current state of things is equal to an
> > > enron situation? c'mon!
> > > he's lucky to have created a business model in which
> > > he can remain a part of his love - the sport. you expect him to
> > > stand next to a bench like he did in the 60s? he made the same
> > > choices all builders made in that era. his practices allowed him
> > > to prosper. many others tried it and were less successful.
> > > e-RICHIE
> > > chester, ct