FW: Re: [CR]Re: Fun Activities at Cirque !!!/Moot Point

(Example: Framebuilders:Rene Herse)

From: "nick zatezalo" <nickzz@mindspring.com>
To: "CR List" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: FW: Re: [CR]Re: Fun Activities at Cirque !!!/Moot Point
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 21:15:55 -0500


Seems to me the listmaster has the dance card completed. Please visit the posted schedule for details.

Nick Zatezalo Atlanta,Ga.


> [Original Message]
> From: <NortonMarg@aol.com>
> To: <gillies@cs.ubc.ca>; <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Date: 3/23/2004 7:36:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Fun Activities at Cirque !!!/maybe not...
>
> In a message dated 3/23/04 1:25:54 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> gillies@cs.ubc.ca writes:
>
> > I think it would be fun to give each framebuilder the same set of
> > tubes and lugs and tools and to have a "race" to build a frameset in 3
> > hours - fixed time limit - or something ridiculously short (including
> > paint job !) Afterwards, cirque attendees could vote on the best
> > frameset!
> >
> > The goal is not to torture the framebuilders, or injure them, however
> > much it might seem like torture for some of the perfectionists on this
> > list. Rather, the goal would be to allow people to see a frame being
> > built (if that's not a trade secret) and to see what sorts of
> > resourcefulness could be applied to building a frameset in a rather
> > short timespan.
> >
>
> Bernie Mikkelsen has building his standard frame down to under one day of
> work. They're fully functional, but they look like they were built in a short
> period of time. Nothing at all sloppy or unworkmanlike, they just don't have any
> detailing that takes time.
>
> I think that would be torture for the framebuilders, to do as you suggest. I
> can't imagine any of them wanting anybody to see something thrown together in
> that amount of time. Artists and craftsmen have their process and way of doing
> things, to ask them to do something so totally different isn't really fair to
> them.
> Stevan Thomas
> Alameda, CA