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Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:44:49 +0100
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From: "Ian Webb" <Ian.Webb@parallel-house.co.uk>
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From: Ian Webb Sent: 03 September 2004 19:30 To: 'classicrendezvous@bikelist.org' Subject: Importance: High

I'm a new member of the group, and I have been hugely impressed at the wealth of knowledge on offer and the very helpful attitude of members. So can anyone help me with the following? I have:

1. A Pinarello Stelvio frame, bought as NOS from Dauphin Sport a few years ago. It's clearly a good example of steel at its best, before aluminum and carbon fibre took over. But what tubing would it be, and where would it have stood in the Pinarello firmament? Top of the range? Halfway down? Or what? And when - mid '90s? Does anyone have a Pinarello catalogue from the period, where I could scrounge a copy?

2. I've just bought, in the United States, a Masi Nuova Strada. This was made around '96 (or earlier?), but does anyone out there know more about the Nuova Strada as a model? It's a Milan-built Masi. I don't think they've ever bothered with catalogues, though.

3. Now here's the real challenge. A (probably) early to mid 1960s English road frame - 22in, 73/73, short top tube and very Italian in style. Outstanding detail work - seat lug modified to take an Allen screw (beats those Campy screws that used to break), RGF bracket shell with 3in spearpoints welded on, cable-stop bridge for rear centre-pull, nicely filed Prugnat lugs, full wrapover seat cluster, rear brake bridge with a machined solid tube to take the bolt, and so on. But nothing to identify it, other than for the numbering 64 7719 on the bracket shell and on the steerer. That's 64 (space) 7719. Can anyone relate that to a particular maker's number sequence? The head tube was never drilled for a badge, so I guess it must have been retailed by a small outfit, and not someone like Holdsworth or Condor.

Bill Hurlow told me a few years ago it could have been made by Vic Edwards or Bill Philbrook, both of whom built for the trade in London around that time. I bought the frame, used, from Brian Wilkins in around 1970 and used it for racing (and everything else) for a while. Brian had had it re-enamelled, and put his own transfers on. At the time, I never thought to ask who made it. And I've long since lost touch with Brian.

Ian Webb

Guildford, England

Email: ian@parallel-house.co.uk <mailto:ian@parallel-house.co.uk>