Re: [CR]Re: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 21, Issue 112

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From: "Duane Kennard" <d.kennard@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 21, Issue 112
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:52:01 -0700
To: Paul Haussler <paulhaussler@earthlink.net>
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And when I was there last ('bout 2 years ago), he still had LOTS of Celo Europa and Colnago framesets hanging around! They all looked like mid-late '80s stuff, but he wasn't giving anything away...

BTW- I think that old Record look-alike headset that said "COLNAGO" on it was actually produced by Gipiemme or Ofmega. I don't think it was a Campagnolo.

Cheers,

Duane Kennard Los Angeles, USA

On Sep 23, 2004, at 2:47 PM, Paul Haussler wrote:
> Greg,
>
> I will try to shed some light on your Celo Europa.
>
> I seem to recall the Colnago Mexico was made of round, light, possibly
> straight gauge, tubing. It was made to set a record distance in one
> hour as
> was done in Mexico by Eddy Merckx.
>
> The Colnago super was a road frame made of round Columbus SL or SP
> tubing.
>
> Your Celo Europa sounds like it was brazed from Columbus Gilco tubing.
> The
> fluted top and down tubes are the clue. The frame was probably made by
> Colnago. It might be a Colnago Master with Celo Europa decals.
>
> Marcel had a shop named Celo Europa on PCH (Pacific Coast Highway) in
> Corona
> del Mar, California. I remember Celo Europas with headsets engraved
> with
> "Colnago" - They looked like Campy headsets. The rumor was that
> Marcel and
> Ernesto had a falling out. The shop closed years ago. I understand
> Marcel
> operates (or operated) another bike shop in Laguna Hills.
>
> Paul Haussler,
> Huntington Beach, CA
>
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> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 13:18:57 -0700 (PDT)
> From: G Wheelwright <gdwheel@yahoo.com>
> To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Celo Europa
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> I have an early 80's Celo Europa Super Celo that
> I'd like to learn more about. It has crimped top and
> down tubes, Colnago engraved fluted seat stay caps,
> and club cutouts on the bottom bracket and head tube
> lug. The chainstays are stamped Colnago and the rear
> dropouts are also engraved Colnago. There is no
> sticker to indicate what tube set was used in it
> construction.
> I was recently told that the frame is a Colnago
> Mexico. I know about Marcel Calborne's relationship
> with Colnago and was wondering if he just sold
> rebadged frames or had them manufactured to his
> specifications? If my frame is a rebadged Colnago, is
> it a Mexico or Super? Attempts to talk to Marcel by
> phone have been futile. Any information will be
> appreciated.
>
> Greg Wheelwright
> Boulder, CO