Re: [CR]Centurion Cinelli NOW Windsor

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From: "Angel Garcia" <veronaman@comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: [CR]Centurion Cinelli NOW Windsor
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 19:37:02 -0500


The half page ad below appeared in Bicycling, August, 1972. Cinelli must have been already concerned about the proliferation of clones.

"ANNOUNCING, CINO CINELLI & C., the manufacturer of the often imitated, but never equaled CINELLI racing bicycles, UNICANITOR racing saddles and CINELLI handlebars points out, that all his highly appreciated products known under CINELLI and UNICANITOR trade mark are made exclusively in Italy. The affectionate customers are invited to distrust all those manufacturers and dealers, who make no scruples to offer poor imitations, diffusing tendentious rumors. The CINELLI factory reserves to himself the right to prosecute the counterfeiters."

Angel Garcia Long Valley, NJ
> That's a Windsor Profesional. I have one I bought new in 1973. The story wasn't quite the same. Near as I can tell, Cinelli never officially participated in building Windsor. The story varies, one version being that they hired a production supervisor away from Cinelli to make clones in Mexico. They had very good copies of Cinelli lugs, including the distinctive Cinelli seat cluster, and it is even possible Cinelli actually sold them the lugs. I'm not sure they ever had the Cinelli full sloping fork crown, though, at least mine doesn't have this. Later, I think they were produced with a more conventional seat cluster - not clear if Cinelli threaten to sue, or just stopped selling them the bits. A fair number of Windsors got repainted and redecaled, and passed off a genuine Cinellis.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry Moos
> Houston, TX
>
>
> Donald Gillies <gillies@cs.ubc.ca> wrote:
> Is there also a "Windsor" cinelli bicycle, all campagnolo / weinmann,
> that was made in the late 1970's ?? As an existence proof, here is a
> rusted one that didn't sell (yet) on ebay :
>
> < http://ebay.com/<blah>
>
>
> made in Mexico and The decal says columbis tubing with Campy dropouts,
> molteni orange, but no Cinelli bottom bracket, and Patent 72 rear
> nuovo record derailleur.
>
> - Don Gillies
> San Diego, CA