Re: [CR]Campy hoods

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From: <"richardsachs@juno.com">
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 22:05:24 GMT
To: jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: [CR]Campy hoods
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

snipped: "... I am missing something "

yeah - you're missing something alright! the original lever hoods for true cobalto levers were oversize-ish nr/sr type hoods, though white, with the buttons for the top.
e-RICHIE
chester, ct


-- Jerome & Elizabeth Moos wrote:


I agree that the Victory/Triomphe levers were not identical to NR/SR. I believe they had different markings. But by "essentially the same as NR/SR", I meant these brakesets had the same design, shape, materials and operation as NR/SR, except for the QR on the calipers as I noted. I'm a little confused about Cobalto hoods, however. Were these aero hoods with no hole for the old non-aero cable routing? I've bought from an eBay "store" what were stated to be Cobalto hoods. These are white and look exactly like the hoods pictured. They appear to be the same shape as NR/SR/Victory/Triomphe. Either these are not in fact Cobalto hoods, or I am missing something as to the distinction between Cobalto and earlier hoods.

Regards,

Jerry Moos Houston, TX

Tom Dalton <tom_s_dalton@yahoo.com> wrote: The levers are either Athena, Chorus, or C-record. Athena have plastic bodies. The other two are either identical to, or indistinguishable from, one another, though C-record may have a better finish. Later C-Records had a "power Grade" adjuster in the front that yours do not have. This feature originally appeared on the cheaper Croce brakes, but was later added to C-record. Later still, Campy changed the cable hook-up to a liner pull, aero-only setup. This was an across-the board change around 1990. The hoods all changed from white to black a year or so later. Contrary to what Steven said, all Campy levers of this type had a built-in QR. All calipers that they were deisgned to go with had no QR. It was the first gen Delta (quasi-prototype) brake that used the aero lever that had no QR. It took a unique hood. This lever actually comes on at least three variants, but I'd be splitting hairs... The lever got widespread use as the "cobalto" lever, packaged with what was essentially an SR caliper as a stop-gap replacement for the Delta "prototype". This caliper had a QR, so the lack of one on the lever was not a problem. The lever you had was used by many riders with the Cobalto caliper, but it was never boxed as a set with that caliper.

I'm afraid Jerry is incorrect about the Victory and Triomphe. These brakes had levers with the same shape as (but not otherwise identical to) SR and NR, respectively. All used the same shape hood. This is the "typical" Campy hood, and this is what is rare in the gum color, especially with the older logo. White and black versions are less sought after (not "correct for NR/SR).

In summary there are three types of Campy hoods (pre Ergo):

1) The classic - NR, SR, GS, Triomphe, Victory

2) Cobalto - fits only the Cobalto lever (the first gen Deltas)

3) The new type - Athena, Chorus, C-record, Croce, and some later cheapie levers (Avanti?)

There are different hoods to fit the newer integrated "Ergo" brake/shift levers.

Tom Dalton

Bethlehwm, PA

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