Re: [CR]Re: Huret "Jubilee" -- additional questions

(Example: Framebuilders:Cecil Behringer)

Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 08:46:17 -0600
From: "John Thompson" <JohnThompson@new.rr.com>
Organization: The Crimson Permanent Assurance
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Huret "Jubilee" -- additional questions
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PBridge130@aol.com wrote:
>
> I'd like to ask the Francophiles a couple of additional, basic questions
> which relate to the original question about Juilees. My own collection of
> vintage bikes is limited to 70's and later, Campy-style, so I'm a bit vague on
> other dropouts, particularly any esoteric variations.
>
> Are the following statements correct?
>
> --- 60's-early 70's French rear ders had a smooth rear der hanger "bolt"
> which slid into an unthreaded hanger on the frame, or an unthreaded hanger
> plate, and a lock bolt/nut secured the der in place from the back of the hanger.
> ("Simplex-style".)

Simplex and Huret dropouts had an unthreaded, 9mm hole for mounting the derailleur. This was frequently tapped by the owners to 10x1mm for threaded derailleur bolts.
> --- Jubilees were made with both Campy-style, and Simplex-style hanger bolts.

Most of Huret's derailleurs shared a common mounting bolt, which was available in a form for either type of dropout. My later DuoPars and Success derailleurs have a hollow, split 10x1mm threaded bolt with a smaller Allen-keyed set screw that threads in from the back to hold it in place:

http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/huret-bolt.jpg
> --- Simplex changed their hanger bolt to Campy-style in the mid- to
> late-70's.

I don't think so. The Gitanes I saw in the early 80's when we were the importer still had the unthreaded 9mm hole. Maybe you're thinking of an end-user tap job?

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-John Thompson (john@os2.dhs.org)
Appleton WI USA