Re: [CR]Ephgrave Super #1

(Example: Framebuilders:Chris Pauley)

Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:59:41 -0800 (PST)
From: Jerome & Elizabeth Moos <jerrymoos@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Ephgrave Super #1
To: Thomas Adams <thomasthomasa@yahoo.com>, Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: 6667


Mine had 70's brazeons added as well, which provoked a debate as to whether it is a genuine Ephgrave or a fiendishly clever counterfeit (probably a debate which will never be resolved). Like yours, whoever added the brazeons to mine did a superb and accurate refinishing job. Anyone know who would have been the most likely Ephgrave refinishers in the 70's and early 80's? Per Hilary's article in C+, Les Ephgrave himself died in 1969.

Regards,

Jerry Moos Houston, TX

Thomas Adams <thomasthomasa@yahoo.com> wrote: The Super #1 (or Superbe(?), as I was told once was an alternate name) may predate the '50's listed on the CR page. My Ephgrave was represented to me as a '49, and has some lovely lug cut outs. However I don't have cut outs in the spear points, only on the sides of the lugs. A transitional style, perhaps? As for the age, I believe mine is likely a pre 1950 frame, as the seat stay caps are missing the top of the "lollipop", a trait of very old Ephgraves. Pics can be seen here.

Note that the frame was "modernized", probably in the 80's with Campy short rear drops and DT bosses. No, I didn't do it! And I've been swapping the parts to a more "retro" style too, although I probably won't get past 1972 (Suntour VXGT).

Tom Adams, Shrewsbury NJ

hersefan@comcast.net wrote: The Epgrave #1 Super, I believe, has cutouts in the lugs (notably on the extensions at the front of the headtube). Others may be more specific than I.

If memory serves me, and if Jerry's is the one I'm thinking of, I believe the frame Jerry mentions is illustrative of a number 1 super.

Mike Kone in Boulder CO


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> So what's the difference between an Ephgrave "Super" No.1 and a "regular"
> Ephgrave No.1? As the owner of an Ephgrave No.1 frame myself, this is perhaps
> more than idle curiousity.
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> Regards,
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> Jerry Moos
> Houston, TX
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> Joel flood wrote:
> We are planning on bringing a Louvet or two, Aviac aluminum post war
> french, Ephgrave Super No.1, Heylett, mid 50s Peugeot. maybe something
> else. but that is so far.
> ralph
> Via Bicycle
> Phialdelphia
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