[CR]Re: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 33, Issue 118

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From: "Steve Sitz" <steve@nantahalarealty.com>
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Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 09:02:23 -0400
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Subject: [CR]Re: Classicrendezvous Digest, Vol 33, Issue 118

I have some TA metal cleats. The short ones. Don't remember the model name. I'll have to check my workshop to see how many I have.


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> 1. BK vintage wheelmen (Matteo Brandi)
> 2. BB spindle conversion (Jerry Corcoran)
> 3. Monthly Rose Bowl vintage ride October 2 (Chuck Schmidt)
> 4. Wanted: T.A. Criterium and/or Anquetil nail-on cleats
> (David Patrick)
> 5. Pic of the Day - Cyclocross 1938 (Aldo Ross)
> 6. still looking.... (Matteo Brandi)
> 7. question about record pista hub with painted strips
> (galen pewtherer)
> 8. Mavic MA-2
> 9. New Photos Posted (Mark Poore)
> 10. RE: Too much frame flex (Mark Poore)
> 11. WTB: martano washers & 75+ ITA Record BB (Morgan Fletcher)
> 12. RE: Too much frame flex (Robert D. Dayton,Jr.)
> 13. WTB: SR brakes small parts and/or can i cannibilize? (e a)
> 14. Gitane Tourer Conv
> 15. Re: Frame Flex (Steve Maas)
> 16. T-Town Swap Meet Plea/Offer (Bingham, Wayne)
> 17. Re: BB spindle conversion (Mark Stonich)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 00:57:17 +0200
> From: "Matteo Brandi" <cheroketz@libero.it>
> To: "classicrendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>,
> "jtperry1" <jtperry1@verizon.net>
> Subject: [CR]BK vintage wheelmen
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> Crew
>
>
> i suggest y 'all to go to seee and meet the Omnipotent (u wont
> ge the chance to see the self-proclaimed vice-omnipotent despot ,being me
> and no longer living in NY,sigh!)
>
> Anyway. ill take the chance to than
> k and say hi to all the people i ve met while i was out there,finally put
> ting faces to names.I wanna say hi to:Giantindaro and Sally Pergolizzi,Th
> e Beast,Mike"ribs and chicks"Schmidt,Tom Ward,Mike"make it spicy,please"A
> llison,Steven"da' Ubermighty"Maasland and family,Joe Bender Zanoni,Richie
> "salsa House"Sachs,Peter"i used to own a Moto Guzzi"Weigle,Ray Hominsky,L
> ou"Speedo"Deeter,Greg Arnold,Vincenzo Saraco,Les Himel,Nino Hellman,Eddie
> Albert.Some names are scaping me now,but il mention them on my next post
> .
>
>
> Ciao
>
> MAtteo Brandi Firenze Italia
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:29:23 -0700
> From: "Jerry Corcoran" <jerryc@proactivesports.com>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]BB spindle conversion
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> There was a thread a few weeks ago about fillet brazed Schwinn Superiors
> and
> Super Sports and there was mention of a BB spindle conversion kit that
> allowed cotterless crank arms to be used on the Ashtabula BB shell. An
> early BMX trick. I'd like to build up my "63 Superior for a winter
> commuter using the conversion kit. I kind of missed the whole BMX scene
> so
> I'm clueless. Anyone have one for sale or trade or know of a source.
> Thanks
>
>
> Jerry Corcoran
> jerryc@proactivesports.com
> (503) 263-8583, ext. 223
> Fax (503) 263-8579
> 1200 SE Second Ave.
> Canby, Oregon 97013
> http://www.proactivesports.com http://www.proactivesports.com/
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:33:47 -0800
> From: Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Monthly Rose Bowl vintage ride October 2
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> Monthly Rose Bowl vintage ride
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> This month's ride theme will be Colnago bikes. If you don't have
> one it matters not in the least; ride whatever you wish.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Starts at the Rose Bowl in Pasadena, California every FIRST Sunday of
> the month.
>
> Meet at the pool/picnic area parking lot at the south end of the park at
> 10:30 am to introduce yourselves, talk bikes and swap parts. Ride will
> start at 11:00 am sharp.
>
> The ride will be a casual-paced 25 miles long through Pasadena, South
> Pasadena, San Marino, Temple City, Arcadia, Sierra Madre, Altadena, and
> back to the Rose Bowl for a picnic and more vintage bike talk. The ride
> is mostly flat with one moderate climb (fixed gears are fine in other
> words).
>
> Everyone is encouraged to bring and ride a 1985 or earlier bicycle, but
> feel free to ride anything you have.
>
> Route & Profile: http://www.nonlintec.com/bikepages/vr_route.htm
>
> Driving directions: http://tinyurl.com/iiui
>
> Chuck Schmidt
> South Pasadena, California
>
> .
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:34:22 -0700 (PDT)
> From: David Patrick <patrick-ajdb@sbcglobal.net>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Wanted: T.A. Criterium and/or Anquetil nail-on cleats
> Message-ID: <20050929233422.98737.qmail@web80725.mail.yahoo.com>
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> Does anyone on the CR list know who, if anyone, has these available? I
> tried Mike Barry @ BikeSpecialties and it seems that he has pretty much
> been cleaned out of his supply. I need to get my hands on 2-3 pr of
> these, if possible. Thanks.
>
>
> Dave Patrick
> Chelsea, Michigan
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 20:24:41 -0400
> From: "Aldo Ross" <aldoross4@siscom.net>
> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]Pic of the Day - Cyclocross 1938
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> Pic of the Day
> 30th September, 2005
>
> Cyclocross 1938
>
> http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/album17/Robert_Oubron_1938
>
> Robert Oubron on his way to winning his second consecutive Critérium
> International de Cyclo-Cross, precursor to the World Cyclocross
> Championship. From "Match" No.612, 8 February 1938.
>
> Aldo Ross
> BlueBall, Ohio
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 02:36:23 +0200
> From: "Matteo Brandi" <cheroketz@libero.it>
> To: "classicrendezvous" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]still looking....
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> ..for a BB shell.A double plate fork crown,maker unimportant as long as i
> s usable and silve rgem tape.
>
> Thanx
>
> MAtteo Brandi Firenze Italia
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 17:41:38 -0700
> From: galen pewtherer <dolface@gmail.com>
> To: classicrendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]question about record pista hub with painted strips
> Message-ID: <852b38f0509291741p30931860t75cb058a8b913b95@mail.gmail.com>
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> Message: 7
>
> does anyone have any information about the stripes painted on the the
> barrel of the rear hub on this wheelset?
> http://i20.ebayimg.com/03/i/04/ec/74/42_3.JPG
> do they denote a particular builder perhaps?
>
> many thanks,
> --
> -galen pewtherer
> san francisco, ca
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 21:07:36 EDT
> From: Carb7008@cs.com
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Mavic MA-2
> Message-ID: <1fd.b48b307.306de9d8@cs.com>
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> It appears to me that a favorite rim of vintage riders/restorers, the
> Mavic
> MA-2, is hard to find in either 27" or 700c. Unless I'm mistaken, I seem
> to
> recall their selling for hundreds of dollars on Ebay. I have a chance to
> snag a
> pair and wondered if I shouldn't jump on it?
>
> Jack Romans
> Sacramento, CA
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 19:46:12 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Mark Poore <rauler83@yahoo.com>
> To: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]New Photos Posted
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>
> A few weeks ago I bought a new camera, mainly for posting photos on ebay,
> a 5.1 megapixel and have been playing around with it. Anyway, got some new
> photos of the blue Rauler and Fuso Lux if anyone out there is intersted
> in seeing them. More to come.
>
> http://photos.yahoo.com/rauler83
>
>
>
> Mark Poore
>
> Slatyfork, WV
>
>
>
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> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 20:20:03 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Mark Poore <rauler83@yahoo.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: RE: [CR]Too much frame flex
> Message-ID: <20050930032003.64854.qmail@web53107.mail.yahoo.com>
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> Haven't read all the post regarding this topic, but many of them the one
> thing I don't believe I have seen, might have missed it, was a given
> material's ability to absorb shock. Much like a tuning fork does when one
> strikes it on a hard surface different materials that bikes are made of
> can lessen shock that is transmitted to the ridder. This led me to conduct
> my own research tonight. Having consumed just the right amount of wine and
> with a clear idea of how I was going to conduct this test I headed to the
> basement . First I put the nearly full wine glass down on the work bench
> then took the front wheels off five of my bikes that were hanging by the
> rear wheel. One Fuso Lux with a Look carbon fiber fork, late 70's Rauler
> with sl tubing, the '83 Rauler with SL tubing, mid '70s Rauler with
> probably SP tubing (no rifling in the steer tube) with longer (it takes
> long reach brakes) and slightly thinner fork blades and lastly a '91 Della
> Santa with oversize Columbus. Looking around for
> something to strike the fork blades at the dropouts with I found a one
> inch dowel about 20 inches long that has been used for hitting many metal
> objects. First I struck every fork at the dropouts trying to hit them
> evenly while I lightly gripping the top tube of each bike about 4 inches
> behind the head lug. This led me to another test in which I did pretty
> much the same thing, but gripping the the handle bar, all the bars are
> wrapped with Cinelli cork tape to even the playing ground. The bike that
> had the least viberation was the mid '70's Rauler followed by the Della
> Santa. The Della felt much different than all the others in that the
> viberations were in waves that were very short lived. The other two Rauler
> felt almost identical, most of the hash viberation lasted on a few second
> then lingered lightly for a very long time in comparision to all the
> others. The Fuso with the carbon fork felt like the two Rauler, but no
> lingering viberations. All this testing leds me to belive when
> you have been drinking late at night with nothing better to do, you will
> do the strangest things.
>
> Tune in tomorrow night for the testing of a vintage skis slidding test on
> a 15 degree slope with a light frost. Sorry, wrong list.
>
> Mark Poore
> With nothing better to do in Slatyfork, WV
>
>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 20:27:25 -0700
> From: Morgan Fletcher <morgan@hahaha.org>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]WTB: martano washers & 75+ ITA Record BB
> Message-ID:
> <1128050845.24328.9.camel@209-204-185-105.dsl.static.sonic.net>
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> I need two things to finish my '74 Masi. If you have either, or access
> to either, and you can help me out I'd appreciate it.
>
> I need a 1975+ (different width? Spindle taper length different?)
> Italian-thread Record bottom bracket in good to great shape.
>
> I need 72+ washers suitable for building a Martano wheelset.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Morgan
> --
> Morgan Fletcher, morgan@hahaha.org Oakland, CA, USA
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 01:08:00 -0400
> From: "Robert D. Dayton,Jr." <rdayton@carolina.rr.com>
> To: "'Scott Peterson'" <bobbycorno@bendbroadband.com>,
> <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: RE: [CR]Too much frame flex
> Message-ID: <200509300505.j8U55t1u005587@ms-smtp-04-eri0.southeast.rr.com>
> In-Reply-To: <00fe01c5c518$2942d560$6501a8c0@ScottPeterson>
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> Wow Scott.
> How much do you weigh?
> Just curious.
> Rob Dayton
> Charlotte NC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Scott
> Peterson
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 1:07 PM
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Too much frame flex
>
> Never crashed because of it, but the only bike I've ever ridden that
> actually scared me was a victim of excessive torsional flex. Going
> downhill
> at speed, the rear end would flex so much every time I hit a bump that the
> bike would literally change directions. Not a comfortable sensation,
> especially at 40+ mph... This was a titanium frame from a very well
> regarded name (E___ M_____ Ti AX, built by L_______). Soured me on Ti
> frames for good.
>
> Scott Peterson
> Bend, OR
>
> ps - no, it wasn't wheel flex: my light steel bike w/the same wheels has
> no
> such problems. Nor was it fork flex, since I was running a Columbus Max
> steel fork, and the problem occurred only when the rear wheel hit a bump.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mazzeo, Daniel" <Daniel.Mazzeo@usap.gov>
> To: "charles nighbor" <cnighbor@pacbell.net>;
> <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 9:41 AM
> Subject: RE: [CR]Too much frame flex
>
>
>> Worst crash/fall I ever took was the result of frame flex pulling the
>> rear derailleur cable and sending the chain between cogs while standing
>> on the pedals going uphill full force. I had religiously made sure my
>> rear shifter was tight enough to prevent this but did not check it on
>> this particular day. Landed very hard on left hip and turned black from
>> the ankle to the armpit, smelled like a corpse. It was not fun. Yes
>> you can have too much frame flex.
>>
>> Dan Mazzeo
>> Morrison, CO
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
>> [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of charles
>> nighbor
>> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 10:19 AM
>> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>> Subject: [CR]Too much frame flex
>>
>> There can be too much frame flex. While at a friends house for dinner I
>> tried to ride his wife women's style ten speed starting at the bottom of
>> a small but still a hill. I could not get up. I couldn't believe that
>> has good and strong a rider I was then that with my skill and strength I
>> couldn't somehow finesse and power my way up. After 10 or so tries I
>> believed in too much frame flex is not contusive to good climbing or
>> even climbing a hill.
>> Charles Nighbor
>> Walnut Creek, Ca
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 23:54:49 -0700
> From: "e a" <moschika@hotmail.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]WTB: SR brakes small parts and/or can i cannibilize?
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> i'm slowly collecting, cleaning components for my 82 Gios so i'll have
> nice
> shiny parts to hang on it after i get it repainted sometime in the future.
> right now i'm working on the brake calipers. from reading the archives, i
> understand the calipers changed from 82 to 83. now i have a set of brakes
> (pre-83) and a couple sets(post-83), i'm guessing this by the campy font
> and
> types of center nuts.
>
> my pre-83 brakes have some small parts that are rusty like the quick
> release
> assembly, cable adjuster assembly, center bolt and the center bolt nut
> rusted on 1 and is a plain nut(not dome or pyramid) on the other.
> basically
> everything is in rough shape except for the calipers themselves. now my
> post
> 83 brakes have all these small bits in good order, except the calipers
> aren't as nice as the block lettered calipers.
>
> is it simple enough to swap the block lettered calipers and the small
> parts
> used on the script lettered calipers? and if so, does anyone have small
> domed nuts, so the sets look like they actually came that way? i'm
> assuming
> domed go with block letters and the pyramid nuts go with the script
> lettered
> calipers - at least that's how they kind of are now. are my assumptions
> about pre and post 83 even correct?
>
> just trying to get a proper and nice looking set of SR brakes for my 82
> SR.
>
> Eric Acuna
> Santa Rosa, CA
>
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> ------------------------------
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> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 03:31:01 EDT
> From: Carb7008@cs.com
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]Gitane Tourer Conv
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> I ran into a 70's/80's Gitane tourer that I'm seriously considering (it is
> in
> my size after all). The owner says the bike was converted to a tourer by
> some outfit in Europe that does this sort of thing on a regular basis to
> vintage
> bikes. Conversion consists of adding a triple, cantilevers, rack eyelets
> incl
> fork panniers, HD (Mod 58) 700c wheels, bar-end shifters, etc. The bike
> is
> then repainted and new decals applied. As you can imagine, the bike looks
> great, has Reynolds 531DB (decal), and nice mix of euro components with
> Sugino
> crank and SunTour derail...but I'm leery! Has anyone else heard of these
> euro
> conversions and are they generally ok or are they something to stay away
> from
> unless you personally know the history? Obviously I wouldn't spend
> thousands
> for a potential Frankenstein but a few hundred, maybe.
>
> Jack Romans
> Sacramento, CA
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 10:13:16 +0000
> From: Steve Maas <stevem@mail.nonlintec.com>
> To: Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: Re: [CR] Frame Flex
> Message-ID: <433D0FBC.5020001@mail.nonlintec.com>
> In-Reply-To: <75d04b48050929121851c3471d@mail.gmail.com>
> References: <20050929174225.56920.qmail@web51111.mail.yahoo.com>
> <75d04b48050929121851c3471d@mail.gmail.com>
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>
> This will be my last post on the subject, unless there is something
> special I need to respond to. I've made my point, and I think that
> threads on this forum often last longer than their usefulness warrants.
>
> Thanks to John for the link to the FEM frame analysis. Take a look at
> the curves on the page at http://www.bikethink.com/Power_output.htm.
> These show that the peak power stored in the frame is 0.5% of the
> pedaling power. Now, power is energy per time, energy is force times
> displacement (in this case, summed over the whole frame). The power is
> miniscule, the force isn't, so the displacement (AKA "flex") also is
> miniscule.
>
> Now, you could say that this is just one case, a steel frame of the kind
> we all know and love, and the story might be different for different
> materials or sizes. That's true as far as it goes, but it seems unlikely
> that the difference, under all conditions, would be greater than a
> factor of two or three, which is still miniscule.
>
> (Finite-element analysis is the gold standard for such calculations. It
> can be viewed as exact, within numerical limits.)
>
> Frankly, I can't help but be fascinated by this. Bicycle manufacturers
> started focussing on the dual-triangle frame in the late 1800s, and
> since then, it has been optimized purely by trial and error. Now, we can
> look back at that process with modern analytical tools and see just how
> well it worked to perfect the frame: amazingly (to me, at least) stiff,
> strong, and light.
>
> By the way, I've received a number of thoughtful comments off-line,from
> members of the list, and some not so thoughtful and comsiderably hotter.
> I'll be happy to continue this discussion off-line. However, if your
> point is just to vent your spleen for having cherished beliefs
> questioned, don't expect a response. I have better things to do.
>
> Steve Maas
> Dublin, Ireland
>
>
>
>
> Kurt Sperry wrote:
>> Agreed. The best short take on the subject I've seen, seems based on
>> sound
>> first principles rather than anecdotes and unsupported assumptions.
>> Worth the short time it takes to read.
>> Kurt Sperry
>> Bellingham WA
>>
>> On 9/29/05, John Clay <jmedclay@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>One of the things I learned in mechanical engineering school was that
>>>structural analysis and testing aren't easy and the (correct) results are
>>>frequently counter-intuitive. Adding an analysis of power delivery as it
>>>relates to bicycle speed or efficiency and you've got a mighty imposing t
>>
>> ask
>>
>>>on your hands. Here is an article by an engineer who's put substantial
>>>thought and effort into modeling a bicycle frame as it relates to power a
>>
>> nd
>>
>>>deflection. A quick read and his conclusions sound well grounded to me. H
>>
>> e
>>
>>>doesn't violate any big ticket "first principles" that I can see. The
>>>analysis and conclusions make sense so I tend to think he's in the correc
>>
>> t
>>
>>>zip code.
>>>
>>>Short version: I wouldn't be too quick to utterly dismiss reasonable fram
>>
>> e
>>
>>>flex as an aid to propulsion.
>>>
>>>http://www.bikethink.com/Frameflex.htm
>>>
>>>fineartscrimshaw.com http://fineartscrimshaw.com
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> .
>>
>
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> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 08:09:24 -0400
> From: "Bingham, Wayne" <WBINGHAM@imf.org>
> To: "CR" <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
> Subject: [CR]T-Town Swap Meet Plea/Offer
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> Due to working long hours recently on a very large project, I am
> somewhat unprepared for the T-Town swap this weekend. Nevertheless, I
> have a vendor space and will be heading up early Saturday morning.
> Having no time to organize, I will be taking only a few items for sale.
> However, I am interested in finding someone who might be willing to help
> carry in a few things and "booth sit" for me occasionally. In exchange,
> I'm offering my second vendor bracelet, which gets you in early to look
> for that $500 Confente. Anyone interested?
>
> Wayne Bingham
> Lovettsville VA
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 07:39:28 -0500
> From: Mark Stonich <mark@bikesmithdesign.com>
> To: jerryc@proactivesports.com
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]BB spindle conversion
> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.0.20050930072618.02e5ad00@pop.earthlink.net>
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> At 9/29/2005 04:29 PM -0700, Jerry Corcoran wrote:
>>There was a thread a few weeks ago about fillet brazed Schwinn Superiors
>>and
>>Super Sports and there was mention of a BB spindle conversion kit that
>>allowed cotterless crank arms to be used on the Ashtabula BB shell. An
>>early BMX trick. I'd like to build up my "63 Superior for a winter
>>commuter using the conversion kit. I kind of missed the whole BMX scene
>>so
>>I'm clueless. Anyone have one for sale or trade or know of a source.
>>Thanks
>
> Jerry,
> Your LBS can order you this one
> http://harriscyclery.net/site/page.cfm?PageID=49&SKU=CR0500 from
> QBP, part #CR0500. If you don't have a good LBS nearby, just get it
> from Harris.
>
> Or this much cheaper ($25-$30) one
> http://www.jbimporters.com/nondealer/product-closeup.phtml?id=20226
> from J&B, part #20226
>
> (The J&B item is just the adaptor, the ISIS spindle and bolts shown
> in the illiustration are separate items.)
>
>
> Mark Stonich;
> Minneapolis Minnesota
> http://mnhpva.org
> http://bikesmithdesign.com
>
>
>
>
>
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