Re: [CR]Welding

(Example: Framebuilders:Chris Pauley)

Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 10:43:49 -0800 (PST)
From: "Fred Rafael Rednor" <fred_rednor@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Welding
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <20051206171544.20879.qmail@web25308.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>


> Michael Butler wrote: > > ...Could this possibly be that the supply of > lugs is running out and steel frames will > have to be produced in lugless form soon? Didn't someone on the CR list hypothesize that the lack of lugs after WW2 was the impetus behind the increased use of lugless construction in that era?

> and Ray Green wrote: > > My 1902 Collins English English dictionary > describes welding as "to unite pieces of iron > by beating or compression" ! In the 1970 > edition that had changed to "to join pieces > of heated, plastic metal by fusion without > soldering materials. This proves either... Ray, I suspect the editors of the 1902 edition used that definition because the most common welded products for the "man on the street" in that era would be items made by a blacksmith. Today that technique is called Forge Welding or Hammer Welding depending on whether you're performing blacksmithing or automotive body restoration. (At least that's how people I know talk about it. It's possible that usage varies between here and Pennsylvania, or between here and Britain, or between England and Scotland for that matter.)

Anyway, although I'm sure I will be proven wrong within the hour, I'm willing to assert that few - if any - bicycle frames were constructed using Forge Welding. :-D Best regards to everyone, Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia (USA)

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