re: [CR]Windsor Cinelli?

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From: <velorosso@charter.net>
To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: re: [CR]Windsor Cinelli?
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:10:54 -0800


Had a frame exactly like this one a couple years back, but without a headbadge. At first I thought the Centurion transfers were meant to disguise the bike, but subsequently learned from (Peter Rich?) that it was a Windsor.

Key Windsor feature to distinguish from a Cinelli is the fork crown. Also, the workmanship was so so, the mitreing in the bb wasn't great. This is an early 70's bike, wasn't a Cinelli Centurion made in the late 70's or early 80's?

John "I've met a Cinelli, and sir, you are no Cinelli" Siemsen.

Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:36:41 -0800 From: "C. Andrews" <chasds@mindspring.com> To: <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Subject: [CR]Windsor Cinelli? Message-ID: <003d01c60003$65f64ca0$6401a8c0@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list Message: 5

In the wake of this auction, I was asked by at least one potential buyer whether or not this might actually be a Cinelli-made Centurion, rather than a Windsor-made frame.

That seemed highly unlikely based on the details of the frame...but, I can't help asking the collective expertise here: is this in fact a Windsor-made Centurion? Or could it be made by Cinelli?

The seat-post clamp ID is definitely NOT 26.2, btw.

Any and all opinions welcome..

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Did Cinelli ever make frames for Centurion, and if so, when?

Charles Andrews SoCal

John Siemsen San Luis Obispo, CA