Hi all, Last time I looked Grant at Rivendell Bicycle Works would still make a KOF type made in the USA frame for you, although there was a wait, but no more that when having a frame refinished by Argos. Grant is one of the very few that I have met up with (thru his Catalog/Riv. Reader) in today's bike trade whose whole attitude is one that I can closely identify with. This of course means he is basically 50 or so years behind the times. Just sign up for a years worth of the Rivedell Reader and see what I mean. As far as not buying new frames, I am covered since I have a modern Bates built by Ron Cooper, and which by the way cost about the same as buying and refinishing a 1956 Holdsworth Whirlwind that I have also. Not affiliated with Rivendell, or related to Grant by blood, marriage, adoption, etc., only in spirit. TaTa for now. Phil Easton