Maestro Sachs responds:
"i saw all that.............. i betchoo they are.... nikko sangyo or similar ..... bulge formed lugs, popular on factory made frames in the pre IC era. ........interesting fork crown. e-RICHIE©T® "
Dale Brown Greensboro, 27408 USA
-----Original Message----- From: Ben Kamenjas <bici_pimp@mac.com> To: oroboyz@aol.com Sent: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:24:48 +1100 Subject: Re: [CR]Psst .... What Lugs: Haden or Nervex ???
Cool,
I must point out that Im only a lowly student and I defer to your experience and eye because you have seen, worked with and thought about all this much more than I.
thanks Dale.
ciao, Ben
On 25/03/2006, at 12:08 PM, oroboyz@aol.com wrote:
> Ben:
> I said that beacuse there were many Nishikis and other Japanese made
> bikes that had similar, Nervex-liike lugs in the early to middling >
1970s. Notice how the socket that receives the top tube is longer and >
more material than a Nervex pro? I never saw a Haden set like that at >
all. I am copying Richard Sachs with this, as he is all-knowing.....
>
>
> Dale Brown
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Kamenjas <bici_pimp@mac.com>
> To: oroboyz@aol.com
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Sent: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:00:22 +1100
> Subject: Re: [CR]Psst .... What Lugs: Haden or Nervex ???
>
> Hey Dale,
>
> Pray .. do tell !!!!
>
> I have a hard time believing but then I don't know much. My old mate
> and local builder during the time said they were Haden. The fronts
> remind me of some Nervex series and as I haven't seen any similar >
Haden's I thought perhaps they mightn't be.
>
> But from Japan? .... I've never heard of any being used down here >
especially as at that time we were pretty much a part of the Empire >
(no, the other one)
> and very much eurocentric in terms parts and bike materials. What >
wasn't sourced from Europe was made locally.
>
> So Japanese ... any name or series or manufacturer? Any, pics of >
others? Sorry if my tone is disbelieving but ... well, Im in disbelief
> and for a frame from
> the early 60's (can't prove, but a good guess) it would be a first.
>
> BTW ... got no probs with them being from Japan and if they were I >
would probably keep it being that it makes it the more unusual and to >
my mind important.
>
> dom Arigato, onaigashimas
>
> Ben Kamenjas
> Sydney, Oz
>
> On 25/03/2006 Dale Brown wrote:
>
> > << but what lugs are these? Haden or Nervex ? any series ?
> >
> > http://homepage.mac.com/
>>
> >
> >
> > Those sure look like Japanese lugs to me (no kidding...)
> >
> >
>
> I wrote:
>
> > Subject: [CR]Psst .... What Lugs: Haden or Nervex ???
> >
> > Hey Coolio's,
> >
> > Perhaps cheeky for askin' but what lugs are these? Haden or Nervex
?
>> any series ?
> >
> > http://homepage.mac.com/
> >
> > or
> >
> > item # 7228081055
> >
> > I wouldn't sweat till the fat lady sings ...... I might be keeping
> it.
>
>
>