[CR]Masi - The plot deepens

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From: "Eric Elman" <tr4play@cox.net>
To: <LouDeeter@aol.com>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, <smwillis@verizon.net>
References: <cab.ffa56.3257b47d@aol.com>
Subject: [CR]Masi - The plot deepens
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 18:03:02 -0400


Just got home and checked - my BB is Italian as one would expect. Re. Lou's comment below, I did not see anywhere in Steve's post that the BB on the frameset in his shop was English. If it is, then yes, that seems puzzling to me also.

Regardless, the rest of that frame is identical to mine in every detail shown in Steve's pics, even the fork crown as asked by another list member. Given all the details save the BB are identical to mine, and that I purchased mine new, I have to conclude she is indeed a late 90's Masi. Can't see any reason for someone to replicate said frame as they are not highly valued ($$) so what would be the point (although they are indeed a nicely crafted, well painted and fine riding frameset).

Eric Elman Somers, CT USA

----- Original Message ----- From: LouDeeter@aol.com To: tr4play@cox.net ; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org ; smwillis@verizon.net Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [CR]Masi - The plot deepens

The puzzling piece of this puzzle is that Steve Willis says that his mystery "Masi" has English threading in the bb. My conclusion is that it is NOT a Masi, only because of that one piece of evidence. If someone has seen a Masi with English bb threading, then I'll defer to their story. Lou Deeter, Orlando FL

In a message dated 10/6/2006 8:53:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tr4play@cox.net writes: Steve,

I'm presuming this is indeed on topic due to it's lugged construction....

It is definitely a real Masi. I know because I have one exactly the same as what you provided pictures of. Mine was bought NOS and imported through Torelli and is from the mid-late 90's vintage. Mine was originally painted by CR list member and Masi painter Jim Allen (I think that's his name) and a few years back I provided the serial number and he was able to identify for me the date and color he painted it. I use mine as my daily rider this year and as my winter roller bike. Very stiff frame. Mine is equipped with off topic Campagnolo 2003 Chorus components. I'm traveling right now but if a pic or two of mine would be helpful let me know and 'I'll snap a few once I get back home this weekend.

Eric Elman Somers, CT USA

---- Ken Freeman <freesound@comcast.net> wrote:
      > It certainly isn't of the same classic style as the '70s and '80s frames
      > that are on the CR site and elsewhere. I have a 1980, and it is very
      > different in the lugs, seatstay caps, and fork. I suspect it's been
      > rebadged, or it's much more recent than I would know about.
      >
      > Ken Freeman
      > Ann Arbor, MI USA
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org
      > [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of Steven Willis
      > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 9:35 AM
      > To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
      > Subject: [CR]Masi
      >
      > A customer brought this Masi in last night he got off ebay to build up.
      > But, it does not look like a Masi to me. Can anybody tell me if it is or did
      > someone just badge it that way. Thanks
      >
      > http://www.thebikestand.com/Pa050001.jpg
      > http://www.thebikestand.com/Pa050002.jpg
      > http://www.thebikestand.com/Pa050003.jpg
      > http://www.thebikestand.com/Pa050004.jpg
      >
      >
      >
      > Steven Willis
      > The Bike Stand
      > 1778 East Second Street
      > Scotch Plains NJ 07076
      > 908-322-3330
      > http://www.thebikestand.com