Re: [CR]Questions regarding EVIL? Singer on French ebay

(Example: Framebuilders:Tony Beek)

From: <hersefan@comcast.net>
To: "The Maaslands" <TheMaaslands@comcast.net>, "CR" <Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
Subject: Re: [CR]Questions regarding EVIL? Singer on French ebay
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 20:59:15 +0000


I am NOT SURE if this is the same one, but someone emailed me photos of a very similar looking machine for my evaluation a few days ago. Looks to be the same bike I think.

Huge Issue - NOT ALL SINGERS were top quality machines built from frames coming from the shop. During certain periods, Singer obtained lower end frames, labled them as Singers, and off they went. He did not use the same graphics I believe. Better photos of the suspect machine which I saw revealed a headtube decal that did not say Construteur. Also, a give-away was the finishing of the stay ends near the rear dropouts. Cheesy domed fitting rather than the trademark scalloped finishing. Otherwise the lugwork was quite crude.

There is no way Steven would have caught this from the photo on ebay, but I'm sure he or anyone else would have caught it if they saw the detail photos I saw (assuming the same bike - get better photos so be sure).

Mike Kone in Boulder CO


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From: The Maaslands

> I outed the following bike last week:

\r?\n> http://ebay.com/<blah>

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\r?\n> Too bad that the photos are not any better. It really is frustrating

\r?\n> when you can't really tell much about the details about the bike.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Can anybody guess what tyupe of bars those are? They seem to have both

\r?\n> considerable reach and drop. Is it not more common to see smaller drop

\r?\n> bars on Singer bikes?

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Where is the headlight fitted? It doesn't appear to be on the top of the

\r?\n> front rack or mudguard, is it perhaps fitted to the side of the rack?

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Hopefully the bike will go to a list member and we will then be able to

\r?\n> see the bike in its true glory.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> If a list member is the eventual winner and needs some help with French

\r?\n> translation, feel free to send me an email.

\r?\n>

\r?\n> Steven Maasland

\r?\n> Moorestown, NJ

\r?\n> USA