Re: [CR]Why do many frame builders use deck of cards images on bikes?

(Example: Framebuilders:Cecil Behringer)

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From: "Chuck Schmidt" <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Why do many frame builders use deck of cards images on bikes?
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:49:10 -0700
To: Don Wilson <dcwilson3@yahoo.com>
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On Oct 26, 2006, at 7:45 PM, Don Wilson wrote:
> These patterns show up often in lug windows and some
> use them in their insignias. I see hearts frequently
> in lug windows. Clubs less so. And Confente liked
> spades. I don't recall anyone using a diamond, but
> perhaps I missed it. Is there some bicycling tradition
> predisposing the use of these patterns? These patterns
> aren't that stellar aesthetically speaking. What
> gives?
> Don Wilson
> Los Olivos, CA USA

=================================================================== Archive-URL: http://search.bikelist.org/getmsg.asp Filename=classicrendezvous.10211.0025.eml From: Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt(AT)earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [CR]history of playing card suits? Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 11:28:33 -0700

Grant McLean wrote: > > Hi List, > > Trivia time! > > Does anyone know the origin of using the "playing card" suit on bicycles? > Who went first? Did it just end up by chance that: > > Confente - Spade > De Rosa - Heart > Colnago - Club > Pogliaghi - Diamond

Maybe it has its origins with Fausto's '49 Bianchi Pista. http://www.vintagevelos.com/Coppibike.html

"Pokerissmo: no matter how you deal the cards, Bianchi and Coppi are victorious." http://www.vintagevelos.com/images/Pokerissimo_poster.jpg

This is the earliest use of the card suits on a frame that I have seen.

Chuck Schmidt SoPas, SoCal http://www.velo-retro.com (reprints, T-shirts and Campaganolo & Mavic Timelines)

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Archive-URL: http://search.bikelist.org/getmsg.asp Filename=classicrendezvous.10308.0735.eml Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 12:54:42 -0700 From: Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt(AT)earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [CR]Origin of playing card motifs

>From the CR archives:

1949 and Bianchi?

Maybe the playing card motif has its origins with Fausto Coppi's 1949 Bianchi Pista.

Bianchi ad campaign copy: "Pokerissmo: no matter how you deal the cards, Bianchi and Coppi are victorious."

http://www.vintagevelos.com/Coppibike.html http://www.vintagevelos.com/images/Pokerissimo_poster.jpg

This is the earliest use of the card suits on a frame that I have seen.

Chuck Schmidt South Pasadena, CA http://www.velo-retro.com (reprints, T-shirts and Campagnolo & Mavic Timelines)

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Chuck Schmidt
South Pasadena, Southern California
United States of America
http://www.velo-retro.com (reprints, t-shirts & timelines)