[CR]Was: Stainless steel . Now KL or Record.

(Example: Events:Cirque du Cyclisme:2002)

References: <70e14d4c0611111338r410d2884n3e134b20c16fef8b@mail.gmail.com> <CE922A91-2B49-423A-A70E-8890E347C677@ivycycles.com>
To: brandon@ivycycles.com, veronaman@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 23:00:11 -0500
In-Reply-To:
From: <oroboyz@aol.com>
cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: [CR]Was: Stainless steel . Now KL or Record.

<< ...Just so this stays on topic let me add that I believe that using something like this stuff with its ultra-thin walls on a traditionally tubed bike (1" TT, 1.125" ST and DT) would be a real whippy ride. Ever ride the old Columbus KL or Record tubesets? >>

As they say in the Foreign Legion (well, maybe not there, but someone says it somewhere): "It all depends on the frame size" Smaller folks can do it just fine, but......

Dale Brown Greensboro, North Carolina USA http://www.classicrendezvous.com

-----Original Message----- From: brandon@ivycycles.com To: veronaman@gmail.com Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [CR]Stainless steel tubing, Reynolds and Columbus

For me it's zip, zero, and nada. . . at least for a few years. Remember Armet from the early-90s? Ever try to work Metax? If you're interested in the stuff you should check in at the frameforum.net 953 forum at: http://www.frameforum.net/forum2/index.php?showforum=39 I haven't been convinced that stainless is any better than non-stainless, just shinier and harder to work. If you want light checkout the True Temper S-3 tubing Hank sells: http://www.henryjames.com/s3.html I'll keep my eye on it to see if it develops and if it does and a customer wants to pony up the cash I'll give it a whorl. Until that time I'll stay on the sidelines. Just so this stays on topic let me add that I believe that using something like this stuff with its ultra-thin walls on a traditionally tubed bike (1" TT, 1.125" ST and DT) would be a real whippy ride. Ever ride the old Columbus KL or Record tubesets? best, Brandon"monkeyman"Ives doesn't believe the hype in Vancouver, B.C.

On Nov 11, 2006, at 1:38 PM, Angel Garcia wrote:

> Wondering what kind of impact stainless steel tubesets are going to > have in > the market? Any of our KOF builders on the list planning to use? > > WATERFORD, using Reynolds 953, has built a lugged version using > tweaked some > Richard Sachs stainless Newvex lugs, Pacenti stainless bottom bracket, > silver brazed, polished frame, chromed 531 fork (for $3,500). For > photos go > to http://www.waterfordbikes.com/, click on Models, then click on > Message > Board, and scroll through until you see Reynolds 953 discussion). > > > Columbus has announced their new stainless steel tubeset (see below): > Courtesy of http://www.cyclingnews.com > "Columbus takes another shot at stainless steel tubing > > After a long hiatus, Columbus has reintroduced a stainless steel > tubeset, > dubbed XCr. Unlike the older Metax pipes, XCr will be truly seamless, > starting from a solid machined billet and then cold drawn to > produce the > final wall thicknesses. Columbus claims that this production method > will > keep the mechanical properties constant and uniform throughout the > entire > round section of the tube. Moreover, the grain structure of the new > XCr > tubing is said to be unaffected by welding, thus maintaining joint > strength. > > As expected, frames built with the new XCr tubes will boast excellent > resistance to corrosion, and many builders will likely opt to use a > bare > finish. XCr frames also promise to be rather light as well, since > tube walls > as thin as 0.4mm will be possible given the material's high > strength. " > > Angel Garcia > Verona, IT > > > --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- > multipart/alternative > text/plain (text body -- kept) > text/html > --- > _______________________________________________ > Classicrendezvous mailing list > Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org > http://www.bikelist.org/mailman/listinfo/classicrendezvous

_______________________________________________
   Classicrendezvous mailing list
   Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
   http://www.bikelist.org/mailman/listinfo/classicrendezvous