[CR]Bianchi track bikes with "road style" dropouts (was "Coppi bike - is it real?")

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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 11:40:26 -0800 (PST)
From: "Fred Rafael Rednor" <fred_rednor@yahoo.com>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
In-Reply-To: <455e09c1.2fb.276d.1236535840@siscom.net>
Subject: [CR]Bianchi track bikes with "road style" dropouts (was "Coppi bike - is it real?")

Aldo,
     Thanks for the link. My question, though, is whether only Coppi's bikes were built this way; or whether all (or most) Bianchi track bikes of the 1940s and '50s were built with road style dropouts instead of track style fork ends.
     Could it be that once derailleurs came into wide use, Bianchi used the same dropouts for all racing bikes? (That is, until the traditionalists insisted they return to using traditional fork ends on the track bikes.)
     Cheers,
     Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia (USA)


--- aldoross4 wrote:


> This bike in the Bartali museum, from the collection of
> Domenico Razzani, is purported to be one of Coppi's pursuit
> bikes (1953)... not once again the road (or road-style)
> dropouts:
>
> http://www.ciclomuseo-bartali.it/testi/biciclette/biciclettacoppi.htm
>
> Aldo Ross
> Middletown, Ohio, USA
>
> ----- Original Message Follows -----
> From: Fred Rafael Rednor <fred_rednor@yahoo.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Coppi bike - is it real?
> Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 09:13:33 -0800 (PST)
>
> > Ws the use of ordinary, road-style, horizontal dropouts
> > pecualiar to Coppi's track bikes, or were all Bianchi
> > track bikes from the era built in that manner?
> > Cheers,
> > Fred Rednor - Arlington, Virginia (USA)
> >
> > --- aldoross4 <aldoross4@siscom.net> wrote:
> >
> > > The use of road drop-outs on the "Fausto Coppi" track
> > > bike matches pictures of the pursuit bike he used during
> > > 1949. I have not yet checked to see if the "F C" on the
> > > head lug is visible in any of the magazines.
> > >
> > > Aldo Ross
> > > Middletown, Ohio, USA
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message Follows -----
> > > From: Jan Heine <heine94@earthlink.net>
> > > To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> > > Subject: [CR]Coppi bike - is it real?
> > > Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:30:15 -0800
> > >
> > > > Sifting through the various Coppi bikes - the one in
> > > > the Milan Technological Museum appears to be too
> > > > small for the Campionissimo, the one at the Madonna
> > > > del Ghisallo has a later Simplex derailleur - I
> > > > wonder about Alex Clarke's machine, visible at
> > > >
> > > > http://www.vintagevelos.com/Coppibike.html
> > > >
> > > > Are those card symbols really evidence for a Coppi
> > > > provenance? Or were they used on a) top-of-the-line
> > > > bikes for sale or b) on all team bikes at the time?
> > > > What about the "FC" in the lugs? A true sign of a
> > > > "Fausto" bike, or just a "commemorative" series?
> > > >
> > > > The bike does appear to be Coppi's size, and the
> > > > thinned BB shell appears to indicate a
> > > > top-of-the-line Bianchi of the time. I have not yet
> > > > asked Alex about the history to see whether there is
> > > > more to its provenance...
> > > > Opinions appreciated.
> > > > --
> > > > Jan Heine
> > > > Editor
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