[CR] Response to Brandon's comment about Trolling/ CR list raking over coals...

(Example: Framebuilding:Brazing Technique)

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To: brandon@ivycycles.com, ternst1@cox.net
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 11:06:33 -0500
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From: <oroboyz@aol.com>
cc: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: [CR] Response to Brandon's comment about Trolling/ CR list raking over coals...

<< Just because someone's first post is about what to do with a classic frame doesn't mean they're trolling for a sale. I would guess that a majority, maybe as much as 80%, of the new members come to the list because they have something they don't know what to do with and want some help. My guess why 90%+ of the signed on members don't post because they see reactions to newbie posts like Hal's and they don't want to be raked over the coals. >>

Well, I sort of agree but think you are not covering the whole picture..

First, new members need to read the darn rules. I find it amazing that so many new sign ups never even glance at those. I guess we are innudated with "rules" & "terms" that we just zip by and dive in... But it always causes problems here on the CR...

Obviously Mr. Bielstein had no nefarious intent in "trolling" that Paramount frame (for only $35 for gosh sakes!) but most often we have people join who have no interest in old bikes except to max out how much $ they can make. That has nothing to do with the intent and purpose of this list.

Finally, writers need to be a little tougher in this big mean world. If a reminder of prevalent rules and procedures send folks scurrying back in their hiding place, they need to buck it up! Sorry! I bet Hal Bielstein will see that he is welcome and contribute more to the CR list.... and not be cowed by this little bit of "centering!"

Thanks Dale

Dale Brown Greensboro, North Carolina USA http://www.classicrendezvous.com -----Original Message----- From: brandon@ivycycles.com To: ternst1@cox.net Cc: Classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 10:43 PM Subject: Re: [CR]Schwinn Paramount--Trolling

On Dec 27, 2006, at 6:38 PM, ternst wrote: > Start brazing some tubes or get off the jig. > Ted Ernst > Palos Verdes Estates > CA USA

Interesting that you should say that. Hal was one of the first guys to build with Kirk P's lugs as you can see here http://www.bikelugs.com/pacentigallery/bielstein_gallery/index.html If you believe in that "Keeper of the Flame" hooey you should check out the page. I know Hal from the framebuilders list, so maybe that's why I didn't see his post as trolling.

Just because someone's first post is about what to do with a classic frame doesn't mean they're trolling for a sale. I would guess that a majority, maybe as much as 80%, of the new members come to the list because they have something they don't know what to do with and want some help. My guess why 90%+ of the signed on members don't post because they see reactions to newbie posts like Hal's and they don't want to be raked over the coals.

As Charlie P. says, "Relax and have a homebrew."
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