Re: eBay #170072685451
I sold quite a few "Guercs" from Ten Speed Drive Imports, "in-the-day"...
I also think they have "character".
Personally I prefer the pre-Ten Speed Drive Import bikes; they are more hand made looking, have finer filing, fiddly execution and the older decal style. Ten Speed Drive did a great job "smoothing out" the product by painting them in Florida with Imron, etc. but the frame became a bit more anonymous looking and placid (Do you get my drift?)
This particular bike is odd in that the LH chain stay & drop out is completely painted, while the RH stay & dropout is chromed... Oval fork blades... Missing some decals of the fancier models ("wraps" around seat tube, etc.) .. Looks like a econo model, except it IS of SL... Odd!
I have heard a lot of different stories about Guerciotti producti: That Lino Tempesta made them... That Monodico made them... That the Guerciotti brothers never even had their own work shop and all frames were subcontracted out... Anyone know the truth?
Dale Brown cycles de ORO, Inc. 1410 Mill Street Greensboro, North Carolina 27408 USA 336.274.5959 http://www.cyclesdeoro.com http://www.classicrendezvous.com -----Original Message----- From: hersefan@comcast.net To: gginy2k@yahoo.com; classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [CR]Guerciotti track bike on ebay
Guerciotti bikes in my mind have always had "character" - for whatever that means. The one on the auction seems nicely put together - late 80's date seems about right considering all the cast bits. Guerciotti bikes have a bit of a lesser reputation for quality then the very top bikes like DeRosa or Masi, but they are close to that upper tier. I've heard good things about their ride - but as always, on large or small frames it is often a bit of a gamble I suppose. Condition looks pretty good from a quick glance (don't quote me on it) - not prestine, and the gunk on forkcrown from a quick glance looks like perhaps there is some corrosion there - probably not such a big deal as the inside of forkcrowns are hard to see - and given the location perhaps it is simply some wierd slimy ooze. Sometimes folks use every alchohol based cleaner to remove goo without trying something esoteric like water. Just depends on the goo.
For value? Track stuff is hot - and in Boston I bet there would be a dozen messengers willing to buy it if the price was low enough ($300 ish) - but on ebay with national attention for the frame I'd bet $475 to $675 for the frame. It will be interesing to see where it goes. This is assuming, of course, that there are no wierd defects of course.
Mike "working on my new price guide" Kone in Boulder CO
> Does anyone have any thoughts on this track bike? It
> is my size and I have been looking for an interesting
> track bike. Don't know that much about this maker
> other than what I read on Sheldon's site.
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> Thanks for any advice on value and quality.
> Curt
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> link:
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> If link doesn't work it is item number:
> 170072685451
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