RE: [CR]How to deal with rust when it is not sleeping

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Subject: RE: [CR]How to deal with rust when it is not sleeping
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:37:10 -0800
Thread-Topic: [CR]How to deal with rust when it is not sleeping
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From: "George Argiris" <George.Argiris@mitchell.com>
To: "philip bailey" <bailey.philip@gmail.com>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>


primer is porous, it will absorb moisture. Gotta paint

georgeargiris sandiego,ca

-----Original Message----- From: classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org [mailto:classicrendezvous-bounces@bikelist.org] On Behalf Of philip bailey Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:35 PM To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Subject: [CR]How to deal with rust when it is not sleeping

How do you gurus prevent rust? Frame Saver in stem, seatpost, and BB, and just keep primed paint on it?

Subject Bike Surface Inventory:

My 1971 Raleigh Supercourse 531 triange frame has some slight surface rust here and there like where shift cables beat or were rubbed on down tube, but not too much.

The only 'real' rust is on my seat post clamps, and read something about oxidation occurs where two different metals are tig welded (531 and some kind of steel on clamps). That's a good project one Saturday, and then some. Inside seat post did not look bad considering. It looked black and fine gritty, but not red -?

My chromed fork ends had some slight surfce rust, but just semichromed in about 30 minutes (Semichrome tubes leftover from 70's when had Norton Commandos, lol) and it came right off. Did not detail with wheels off, but looks good enough to claim it was a success for a 35 year chrome cleaning: and I still have 3 full tubes left. Didn't use hardly any and surprised how well Semichrome keeps over time - like new viscosity after sitting 30 years.

Subject Bike Alternatives:

I would rather keep the old paint on and touch up, with possibly clear coat, to keep surface rust down, which I need to do at first anyway. But it will look like ragedy ann, which may be good to keep thieves away. I never lock it up (yet) since mostly riding it if outside my garage.

Painting or powder coating (pre-1983 formula) between the chromed forks may be an alternative, and just keep the chromed forks buffed, but that's much later.

Rust and rust prevention is my main concern now and wondered how you experts keep rust under control when you have 'worn' paint jobs for 37 years or more without repainting to keep ORIGINAL value. And I'm not talking about the perfect paints, but well used paint jobs that have a nick here, scratch there, and very slight surface rust peaking out from behind chipped paint every time its ridden in the rain. It looks quite acceptable 20 feet away, but requires some detailed attention. Maybe (pre-1983) powder coating would be easier, but I want to go through and work through several systems on my bike first (one at a time): and then simultaneously pre-address every suspect surface of my bike so I can monitor rust activity once addressed.

Thank You,
Phil Bailey
Sarasota, FL