[CR]Re:MORE of Something for the Campytologists to Puzzle over---

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From: "Peter Weigle" <jpweigle@sbcglobal.net>
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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 15:12:10 -0500
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Subject: [CR]Re:MORE of Something for the Campytologists to Puzzle over---

Have any of you ever seen the slightly oversized bottom bracket cups? These were sold to help a frame that had loose threads. I have an Italian adjustable cup thats marked 36.5 X 24 f.,,, honest! If this has been discussed before whip me w/ frayed campag gear cables.

Peter Weigle
Lyme Ct.


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> 1. Re: Race-Durability in 1970's - 1983 ? (John Thompson)
> 2. WTB: Rear Record (Track) Hub Dust Caps (Kyle Robson)
> 3. Re:Portacatena (MM(btinternet))
> 4. Re:Leather Helmets (MM(btinternet))
> 5. Re: Something for the Campytologists to Puzzle over ...
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> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:05:06 -0600
> From: John Thompson <john@os2.dhs.org>
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> Subject: Re: [CR]Race-Durability in 1970's - 1983 ?
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> Donald Gillies wrote:
>> (which fits with the CR timeline).
>>
>> I was surprised by an article about Darrel McCulloch and his work for
>> the Australian national cycling team. In particular, he stated, "The
>> life expectancy for these bikes is 12 months at the maximum" (article
>> written June 2006).
>>
>>
>> http://www.llewellynbikes.com/thegallery/Llewellyn-bike-test-in-Ride-magazine/aad?full=1
>>
>> For any CR members who were sponsored racers in the 1970's and early
>> 1980's, what do you think was the life expectancy of your bike ?? Was
>> it 1 year, 2 years, 3 years?
>>
>> What was a typical failure mode - A crash? A tube separating or
>> starting to tear? A braze-on that broke-off ?? Or is it just that the
>> bike looks ragged and - the factory or the sponsor is not set up to do
>> repaints ??
>
> For a professional team, it's because the cost of a new frame every
> season is trivial compared to the risk of a failure on an old frame.
>
> --
> John Thompson (john@os2.dhs.org)
> Appleton WI USA
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> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:06:45 -0600
> From: "Kyle Robson" <kyledr@gmail.com>
> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: [CR]WTB: Rear Record (Track) Hub Dust Caps
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> Hi,
>
> I've got a low flange Campagnolo Record track hub without dust caps,
> and I'd like to get some on there. If you have some which would be
> compatible, I'm interested. I'm not an expert on this hub, but it is
> low flange, probably predates c-record, is engraved with the
> Campagnolo logo and below that the word Record. I'd assume dust caps
> from other hubs would also work, but I wouldn't know.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kyle
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> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:32:32 -0000
> From: "MM(btinternet)" <mikemullett@btinternet.com>
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> Subject: [CR]Re:Portacatena
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> Hi all
> I know that there has been a lot of traffic on this subject, but I
> thought that I would offer my two pennorth (2 Nickells) worth on the
> subject. We all know the purpose of the device, and its conception was
> good BUT - in Pro road racing (Kneteman, Raas, Kuiper etc) one needed
> the confidence that when it comes to the sprint, you could push the gear
> lever forward and have confidence that you were on the 13 sprocket and
> could GO. Not the case with the Portacatena. Banging the lever forward
> for the sprint often shipped the chain onto the Portacatena carrier,
> which was not a lot of use in a sprint.
> Hence the device was quicly shunned by the TI Raleigh Team.
> Mike Mullett
> Reading UK
>
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> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 18:48:37 -0000
> From: "MM(btinternet)" <mikemullett@btinternet.com>
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> Subject: [CR]Re:Leather Helmets
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> Hi All and Ray Green, (missed you at the Pedal Club lunch today)
> A follow up on Rays story re Hennie Kuiper winning the worlds at Yvoir in
> Belgium 1975 in a "hairnet" crash hat, only it wasn't his.
> I was at this Worlds as mechanic to the GB team and Jan Kuiper, manager of
> the Dutch team came into the GB pits in a panic at the start as Hennie had
> forgotten his helmet, could we help ( Jan Kuiper had become a friend after
> managing the Dutch team in many Milk Races). I had my son with me who had
> been competing in Belgium and offered him the loan of his crash hat, offer
> rapidly accepted.
> As we know Hennie won the Pro title that year and I said to my son "forget
> the crash hat, we won't get near him at the ceremony".
> We headed for the ferry to the UK, and wrote the helmot off.
> Two weeks later a parcel arrive addressed to my son containing a thank you
> letter from Hennie, a Frisol jersey (his team at the time) an 50 guilders.
> Hennie asked could he keep the helmet as he considered it lucky. Quite a
> haul for a young 15 year old (now 46) and a measure of the professionalism
> of Hennie Kuiper
> Mike Mullett
> Reading UK
>
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> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:48:39 -0800
> From: "Kurt Sperry" <haxixe@gmail.com>
> To: "Donald Gillies" <gillies@cs.ubc.ca>
> Cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
> Subject: Re: [CR]Something for the Campytologists to Puzzle over ...
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> The Ebay link is now dead, but the photo hosting link still works.
>
> I think I can recall seeing 11 and 22 in a box on Campy arms. Warranty
> replacements or something? The little star might just be to keep the
> crank
> spindle mystery "Z" stamps company.
>
> Kurt Sperry
> Bellingham WA USA
>
>
> On 2/13/07, Donald Gillies <gillies@cs.ubc.ca> wrote:
>>
>>
>> http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/showimage.aspx?gid=250325&image=34930822&images=34930728,34930700,34930758,34930801,34930822,34930775,34930870,34930947,34930887&formats=0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0&format=0
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>> http://ebay.com/<blah>
>>
>> A campagnolo crankset with the following date code :
>>
>> 172.5 PISTA [32] <fleur-de-lis>
>>
>> Is this a mythical frank-threaded PISTA crank where time ran backwards
>> while they were making the date-mark, which changed from [33] to [32]
>> halfway through the stamping process ?? Does this belong in the
>> Smithsonian ??
>>
>
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