Re: [CR]Gianna Motta? - (Really Gianni Motta)

(Example: Production Builders)

Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 13:45:17 -0400
From: "David G. White" <whiteknight@burlingtontelecom.net>
To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR]Gianna Motta? - (Really Gianni Motta)
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Look at info here:

http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Italy/Motta_Gianni.htm

and here:

http://search.bikelist.org/?SearchString=Motta

(Pssst: Andrew: list rules require you to sign off with full name and location).

Best,

David

David G. White Burlington, VT

James Swan wrote:
> Me an Gianni are old pals. If you have questions about his bikes just
> let me know. I'll call him right up. Here is a picture of us hangin'
> out at a sports club in Tuscany knocking back a few glasses of chianti:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2k8gq4
>
> It real story is that we met Gianni Motta at L'Eroica last Fall. Mike
> Schmitt took the picture. The chianti part was true. Although Mr Motta
> doesn't speak any English it was clear that he was a very gracious
> person. I think that he is in his early 60's but on the bike he looked
> like he was capable of winning the Gyro au jour d'hui.
>
>
> Jamie Swan
> Home: 631-754-1457
> Cell: 516-238-6782
>
> Centerport Cycles Inc.
> 245 Main St.
> Northport, N.Y., U.S.A. 11768
> 631-262-0909
>
> http://www.centerportcycles.com (mapped)
> http://www.cabinfeverauctions.com
> http://www.limws.org
> http://www.liatca.org
>
>
>
> On Apr 23, 2007, at 11:44 AM, FujiFish1@aol.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Gianni Motta (you spelled it Gianna, which might be why you didn't
>> find much
>> on Google) was a very successful Italian racer in the 1960s and 70s, and
>> opened up his factory, I think in the late 1970s. Pretty sure he
>> hired his
>> builders, and never built frames himself. The stays you describe
>> sound like his
>> Trans Torx system, a design which seemed to eventually be adopted by
>> a lot of
>> modern builders. Sounds like the bike is no earlier than the mid
>> 1980s. Please
>> excuse the modern parts, but here is a pic of my Motta (with Trans
>> Torx stays),
>> and I was informed by an enthusiast this it is from 1987:
>> <_http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/fujifish1/MarksVintage/Gianni_Motta_Pers
>>
>> onal_2001_53cm_PearlSplash/_
>> (http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/fujifish1/MarksVintage/Gianni_Motta_Personal_2001_53cm_PearlSplash/)
>> >
>>
>> Also, here is a Motta frame from about 1980, for comparison:
>> <_http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/fujifish1/ID_or_Sale/Motta_80s_Copper/_
>>
>> (http://www.wooljersey.com/gallery/fujifish1/ID_or_Sale/Motta_80s_Copper/)
>> >
>>
>> My Wool Jersey stuff got all twisted around after Morgan's recent
>> repairs,
>> and this latter album has not been straightened out yet, so you might
>> have a bit
>> of trouble navigating through it in a logical order.
>>
>> I think Lou Deeter has or had a Motta in the American flag theme, so
>> perhaps
>> he will chime in.
>>
>> Ciao,
>> Mark Agree
>> Southfield MI USA
>> ~ ~ ~
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 09:14:48 -0500
>> From: "Andrew McComb" <groundrider@hotmail.com>
>> To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
>> Subject: [CR]Gianna Motta?
>>
>> I have just acquired a Gianna Motta, it has an American flag paint
>> job and
>> was made with Columbus: acciaio chromoly cyclex tubing. No cerial
>> number...
>> It has a uniquely shaped seatstays as well. Can anyone give me any
>> info on
>> the builder, or anything about the company. I've had little luck with
>> google. Thanks much.