Re: [CR]Very interesting Cinelli

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Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 08:28:51 -0700
To: Chuck Schmidt <chuckschmidt@earthlink.net>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
From: "Jan Heine" <heine94@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]Very interesting Cinelli


At 2:30 AM -0700 5/22/07, Chuck Schmidt wrote:
>I've posted in the past about my August 1960 Cinelli SC

New-style lugs without points, I assume?

So here is the rudimentary beginning draft of a timeline for Cinelli SCs. If others just fill in their knowledge, we'll get somewhere pretty quickly. I suggest splitting this into the bikes (first part - the evidence, so to speak), and the "Changes" (second part, the timeline that will be expanded).

I'll start with the bikes I have seen.

Bikes:

Early 1950s? Large headbadge

Late 1950s Small headbage (brass), points on lugs, 74 mm shell, oiler/drain holes on BB shell. Bike was restored - headbadge holes may have been filled and redrilled.

1960 Small headbadge (brass), no points on lugs, 74 mm shell, oiler/drain holes on BB shell

after 1960, before 1965 Small headbadge (brass), no points on lugs, 70 mm shell, oiler/drain holes on BB shell

ca. 1972 Small headbadge (aluminum), holes in lugs and crown stiffener, 70 mm shell, no oiler/drain holes on BB shell

ca. 1978? New logos, no headbadge

Changes:

mid-1950s: small brass headbadge replaces large one

1960: lugs without points replace those with points

some time before 1965: 68 mm BB shell replaces 70 mm BB shell

between 1965 and 1972: Aluminum headbadge replaces brass, holes appear in lugs and crown stiffener, oiler/drain holes in BB shell deleted

ca. 1978: Headbadge deleted, new logos

I have heard about transitional bikes with no headbadges, but old logos (or was it the other way around)? Dave mentioned color differences in the headbadge and decals. If we put all this together in one place, it will be quite useful, not just for dating bikes, but also for restoring them.

Jan Heine
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