Re: [CR] Single-Speed or Three Speed

(Example: Framebuilding:Brazing Technique)

Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:25:31 -0500
To: <apw55@adelphia.net>
From: "Mark Stonich" <bikesmith@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [CR] Single-Speed or Three Speed
In-Reply-To: <21785294.1190857571972.JavaMail.root@web12.mail.adelphia.net>
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cc: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org

At 9/26/2007 09:46 PM -0400, apw55@adelphia.net wrote:
>I have to agree that the AW seems to have a great deal less
>"enthusiast" appeal than the AM, AC, etc. but unless you do most of
>your riding on fairly level roads, I think you'll find the AW much
>more useful. I tried to use an FM for a while this spring but found
>the range too narrow
>and switched back to the AW. To my mind that negates any thought of
>trying an AM or an AC though I do own an AM.
>
>A couple of week ago I built an FW into a wheel for the "Clubman"
>and am finding that I like it a lot. The only problem I'm having
>with the FW is that there seems to be an excessive amount of
>friction in first gear which suggests to me that an overhaul may be in order.

Alan, This shouldn't be happening on an FW. My FM has this problem, but that may be normal as there seems to be a complicated load path in low.
>My next internal hub project is to use an AW with two cogs on an
>early '60's Viking. I have yet to try fitting the hub in place but
>I'm thinking that the Viking's Cyclo-Benelux derailleur should
>handle the two cogs.
>
>Regards,
>Alan Weeks

I used to run 22-19 which perfectly split the ratios on an AW. BTW an old Sturmey 22t cog won't work in this application. Tooth shape is odd and chain can skip if there is a derailleur in the system.

Another possibility would be to use two wider ratio cogs to extend the range of your AM.

I recently put 24-18 on my FW, using a 24t modified Shimano pre-Hyperglide cassette cog, a 1mm FW/BB spacer and an 18t Shimano Nexus cog. http://bikesmithdesign.com/SA/2Cogs2.jpg Shifts like a dream, even when I tried 24-16. The 16 gave me a high gear I couldn't use unless I was falling off a cliff, in a vacuum, with a tailwind.

Your Cyclo should do OK. The hard part is finding a derailleur that has limiting screws long enough.

My favorite RD for a hybrid is the Huret Svelto. It's clearly not modern and it would seem odd to have anything bulkier working only two cogs.

I think a good rule of thumb would be to use one cassette cog and one dished with a modern 1/8" chain like SRAM or KMC. Use 2 dished cogs with older, wider 1/8" chains.

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