It wasn't just the SE that had a long toptube. I have a 53 cm Superleicht with 57 cm toptube.
Regards,
Jerry Moos Big Spring, texas, USA
joeb-z@comcast.net wrote: There was an S below the SE and another model between the SE and Vent Noir. The SE used straight guage tubing made by the Steyr-Daimler-Puch enterprise. It is better and thinner tubing than most "gas pipe" and the bikes have a decent ride. Actually, these SE bikes were decently equipped with well selected cheap European parts. The small frames have long top tubes and do not suit all riders.
Joe Bender-Zanoni
Whitneyville, Connecticut
> I think the model pecking order is 1) Ultima; 2) Superleicht; 3) Vent Noir; and
\r?\n> 4) SE
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\r?\n> The Classic Rendezvous site will be helpful. I think Dale must be updating the
\r?\n> Austro Daimler section right now as I was unable to access it. I know that
\r?\n> there are some AD catalog scans on it though. Also a serial number chronology
\r?\n> to help date your bike. Dale?
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\r?\n> Also, bulgier.net and click on old catalog scans. There are several Austro
\r?\n> Daimler catalog scans.
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\r?\n> Jeff Pyzyk
\r?\n> Milwaukee, WI