Re: [CR]Re: Guerciotti? - Still Trying to Identify - Paint?

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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:29:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: "bruce thomson" <masi3v4me@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Guerciotti? - Still Trying to Identify - Paint?
To: classicrendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>, Steve Valladolid <svalladolid@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <7ae842ea0808172101o48ce6e55hba4d5da0400c749d@mail.gmail.com>


Be certain to take everything off the bike and inspect the INSIDE of the tu bes.  With that much rust and coming from a salt-air environment you may not even bother with having it repainted. BT

Bruce Thomson Spokane WA 99204 (509) 747 4314 Masi3v4me@yahoo.com      rapidfire10ring@hotmail.com


--- On Sun, 8/17/08, Steve Valladolid wrote:
From: Steve Valladolid
Subject: [CR]Re: Guerciotti? - Still Trying to Identify - Paint?
To: classicrendezvous
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 09:01:00 -0000


Another clue to the not Guerciotti. Another big "G" on the head tube. Doesn't appear to be a decal. Photo isn't great but you can make it out.

http://s193.photobucket.com/albums/z288/ch3nte/Guerciotti/?action=view&cu rrent=Guerciotti3.jpg

Continued the deep cleaning today and got most of it. The rear derailer still has some gunk in it that I'm going to have to detail out but got the cog, chain rings and wheels/hubs looking pretty decent. Took a short ride with it and it was shifting a lot smoother although I noticed a wobble in the large chain ring that I'm going to need to straighten out. Next decision is what to do about painting. Cyclart is nearby and by the looks o f it do a phenomenal job. The plus side is that it would look awesome, they would stand by their work, I'd get some touch up paint for future use. Another big plus is that they would strip the paint and deal with the rust as part of their services. The only negative is that the paint job would b e more than I paid for the entire bike. Since the paint scheme is so basic, I'm inclined to find a cheaper way. Something along the lines of chemical stripping and getting a quote from a local auto paint shop for the major color and then just hand painting the trim stuff myself. Anyone ever go thi s route?

Steve Valladolid San Diego

On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 8:14 AM, Steve Valladolid <svalladolid@gmail.com>wrote:
> One more important piece of the puzzle. I've discovered that the bottom
> bracket is English which should definitively rule out the Italian "G"
> brands.
>
> Steve Valladolid
> San Diego, CA
>
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 10:14 PM, Steve Valladolid <svalladolid@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Update. Still trying to figure out what this bike is. I sent a follow up
>> email to the guy I bought the bike from and have some new info:
>>
>> a) He's not the original owner. Bought it in Tucson, Arizona ~15-20 years
>> ago from a couple that was selling it for their son. It was in immaculate
>> condition so he assumed it was pretty new.
>>
>> b) He doesn't remember there being any decals on it when he purchased it.
>>
>> c) He's "certain" it is a Guerciotti but only offers the stamped "G" as
>> evidence.
>>
>> I had a few hours this evening to try and wipe most of the grime off of
>> the bike. Still needs a deep cleaning. I was able to see some additional
>> information.
>>
>> 1) Cranks are Campy and are labeled 170 Strada with a "3" in a diamond
>> 2) The seat post bolt says Cobra Italy
>> 3) Crank bolt also is Cobra
>> 4) Pedal thread on crank is 9/16 X 20 E
>> 5) Small chainring is Campy and reads 43 with a "C" in a diamond
>> 6) Large drilled chainring is 55 teeth with Campy bolts
>> 7) Rear drop out reads Campognolo Brev
>> 8) Rear Derailer reads Campagnolo Nuovo Record
>> 9) Brakes read Campagnolo Brev Inter. with a "C" in a diamond
>> 10) Shifting levers are aluminum and read Campagnolo Patent Vinceza Italy
>> 11) Front Derailer is Campagnolo
>>
>> I looked again at the bottom bracket but couldn't see any numbers or
>> anything. The would have been wiped out by the rust if they were ever
>> present. Is there any other piece of information that would be helpful
>>
>> I added a few more photos at
>>
>> http://s193.photobucket.com/albums/z288/ch3nte/Guerciotti/
>>
>> Hopefully that helps. Thanks
>>
>> Steve Valladolid
>> San Diego, CA
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 11:35 PM, Steve Valladolid <svalladolid@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Following is a link to a few photos of my new Guerciotti that I just
>>> bought tonight. The guy I bought it from was the original owner but
>>> couldn't remember how long it had been since he originally bought it. He
>>> says, minimum 15 years, but I think its longer than that. He said that it
>>> was pretty much top of the line when he bought it.
>>>
>>> The original owner spends the majority of the year in Europe (last 8
>>> years) and only spends about 5 weeks a year here in San Diego.
>>> Consequently, the bike sat in storage for most of the time. The condo he
>>> lives in is directly adjacent to the beach and the storage area didn't have
>>> adequate door seals so corrosion started to do it's dirty work. I think it
>>> looks worse than it actually is, as the rust rubs off very easily with hand
>>> pressure alone. Definitely needs to be repainted.
>>>
>>> http://s193.photobucket.com/albums/z288/ch3nte/Guerciotti/
>>>
>>> I would appreciate any help in identifying it. It has full campy Nuevo
>>> Record and is a 14-speed. It has Cinelli Stem and Bars (Campeone Del
>>> Mundo). It is dark blue with yellow highlights. Bottom bracket looks to
>>> have a stylized "G" cut-out. I'll take more photos during the light of day
>>> after I take off the aero bars and the gel seat pad!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Steve Valladolid
>>> San Diego, CA