Re: [CR]RE: Cinelli Pista on ebay - anyone smell fish??

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:16:25 +0100
From: "Hilary Stone" <hilary.stone@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: Mark Ritz <ritzmon@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [CR]RE: Cinelli Pista on ebay - anyone smell fish??
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For their Pista models Cinelli used a variety of fork crowns - the head lugs are definitely of the correct pattern for pre-1960 or thereabouts Cinellis. 1950s Cinellis were extremely variable in their details and I have never seen the Pista model with a fully sloping fork crown. Details like the rear dropouts did vary widely in these days at Cinelli and the slot in the BB shell may well have been added later ... I have seen fork crowns of this type on 50s Cinellis...

Hilary Stone, Bristol, England

Mark Ritz wrote:
> Did Cinelli ever make a Model B in Pista?
>
> Wondering,
> Mark Ritz
> Getting ready fro the CR Koffee Klatch next week
> Arcata, California, US
> http://www.kinetic-koffee.com
>
> Mike Kone asked:
>
> Hi CR folks,
>
> Stumbled across this on ebay tonight. The fork is clearly off, and my quick
> take of the rear dropouts looks like they are incorrect. Rest of details
> hard to place. Front headlugs from a quick look seem OK. The slot in the
> BB shell is just plain wrong (there were the bb's with slots later on from
> the special run that went through the German shop, but his sure doesn't look
> like those). Can't tell if the seatcluster is right. It all just smells
> wrong.
>
> I have an interesting imposter in my hands now - wonder what other ones are
> out there besides the ones on the usual radar. Perhaps someone thinks this
> is right - but I'm skeptical.
>
> http://ebay.com/<blah>
> hotoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting
>
> Mike Kone in Boudler CO USA - where we take Cinelli's very seriously in
> addition to Rene Herse