Re: [CR]Re: Campy or Carlton "C".

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To: billydavid13@comcast.net, classicrendezvous@bikelist.org
Subject: Re: [CR]Re: Campy or Carlton "C".
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:15:09 -0500
In-Reply-To: <1476951084.227811226583258013.JavaMail.root@sz0035a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
From: "Dale Brown" <oroboyz@aol.com>


<< But i was subsequently informed by a shop owner that it was Campagnolo, and was a way of putting one piece of Campy on a bike. Typically SuperCourses and a bit above. The "C" is excactly the same as on?the derailleur bolts on Campy Gran Turismos and Veloxes.? Here's what i think and would love to be corrected by someone who actually knows: The bolts and nuts were made by Campy exclusively for Raleigh/Carlton in Whitworth dimensions.>>

Not even faintly the case. Campagnolo had nothing to do with those bolts/nuts. Listen to Ted, no one has more savvy & expertise...

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-----Original Message----- From: billydavid13@comcast.net To: classicrendezvous@bikelist.org Sent: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 8:34 am Subject: [CR]Re: Campy or Carlton "C".

Ted Ernst, w/ much experience, ?argues that the ornate "C" which appea red on Whitworth dimensioned seatpost bolts on many Raleighs as well as axl e nuts for [non-Campy] bolt on hubs [Sturmey-Archer high flange on Raleigh Records?] stood for Carlton. My 1972 lilac Competition came w/ such a seatp ost bolt and i assumed, at the time, that it stood for Carlton. But i was s ubsequently informed by a shop owner that it was Campagnolo, and was a way of putting one piece of Campy on a bike. Typically SuperCourses and a bit a bove. The "C" is excactly the same as on?the derailleur bolts on Campy
   Gran Turismos and Veloxes.? Here's what i think and would love to be corrected by someone who actually knows: The bolts and nuts were made by Ca mpy exclusively for Raleigh/Carlton in Whitworth dimensions. The fact that the "C" is ambiguous, standing for either Carlton or Campy is a happy coinc idence. It'd be interesting to know if these were spec'd for Carlton before
   the Raleigh buyout or after. We know Campy made a dedicated seatpost for t he narrow railed Brooks saddles, so they obviously had som dealings w/ the Brits. Enlightenment is desired!? Billy Ketchum; Chicago, IL; USA.