Re: [CR]ANTIQUE RACING BICYCLE VINTAGE RACE BIKE OLD LA SALLE

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From: "ternst" <ternst1@cox.net>
To: "ternst" <ternst1@cox.net>, "chris ioakimedes" <chriseye@comcast.net>, <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Subject: Re: [CR]ANTIQUE RACING BICYCLE VINTAGE RACE BIKE OLD LA SALLE
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:50:13 -0800
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Forgot to mention that the crank has the elbow bend as came on the standard stockbikes. This design was used so the crank would clear the chainguard which was more commonly standard equipment in the '30's than the '20's and earlier.
Ted Ernst
Palos Verdes Estates
CA USA


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From: ternst
To: chris ioakimedes


<classicrendezvous@bikelist.org> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [CR]ANTIQUE RACING BICYCLE VINTAGE RACE BIKE OLD LA SALLE


>I would place this bike at early mid thirties.
> The '38ish/39/40's before WW11 shutdown had the fishook dropouts and this
> one has the traditional track type axle slot.
> La Salle, Lincoln, Cadillac, etc., were names Schwinn used to sell bikes
> to different distributor agencies so the various bike retailers could
> could sell bikes and have their own "territory".
> Good business move and franchising by Schwinn so they could sell same
> bikes in same area without too much flack on brand name overlap
> infringement.
> This bike has the older New Departure hub(s) which were used until Schwinn
> came out with their Alloy hubs at same time the Paramount stuff came out
> in '38, if I remember correctly w/o looking it up.
> The chrome plating also dates it to early '30's as in earlier years parts
> were nickled
> I have a later New World 39 +/- a year that has the later features I
> mentioned, but is almost identical but in white.
> They were sort of intended as amateur racing models, but mostly were used
> by people who wanted a racelike looking bike at a normal price, as the
> World type racing Schwinns with lite tubing were much more dear.
> The unfortunate fellows who came out and thought they could race on one
> soon found out they'd been sold a slug of goods as they were left behind
> in a cloud of dust.
> They were laughed off the track and I doubt if many even started according
> to my dad.
> I think he said that Pesek my 6-day partner in '57 first came out with a
> bike like that when he first started racing in the late '30's.
> That price is way too high, hope the guy that gets it won't try to resell
> it too soon.
> But, if the bidder wants it badly, hey, go for it.
> It's only money and it's more fun stroking a tubing on a bike than rubbing
> a few dollar bills together.
> Life is short.
> Ted Ernst
> Palos Verdes Estates
> CA USA
>
>
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 6:36 AM
> Subject: [CR]ANTIQUE RACING BICYCLE VINTAGE RACE BIKE OLD LA SALLE
>
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>>
>> Is't this bike a late 30s early 40s lightweight, that someone made to
>> look like a racing bike? Notice the 1 piece cranks. Ebay #380081143405
>> chris ioakimedes
>> Fairfax, California
>> http://www.fattiretrading.com