Re: [CR] Cranks and BCD, old + new

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From: "Kai Hilbertz" <khilbertz@googlemail.com>
To: Edward Albert <ealbert01@gmail.com>, Classic Rendezvous <classicrendezvous@bikelist.org>
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:35:20 +0100
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Subject: Re: [CR] Cranks and BCD, old + new


Jan. 25, 09

Hello Edward,

thanks for the correction, I didn't know that. What kind of gear do use? Is it all Campy 144, or other stuff as well?

Greets

Kai Hilbertz Munich, Germany

On 25.01.2009, at 16:10, Edward Albert wrote:
> Campagnolo made a 41 tooth for the NR. not much metal there but it
> works. I have one.
> Edward Albert
> Chappaqua, N.Y., U.S.A.
>
> On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Kai Hilbertz <khilbertz@googlemail.com
> > wrote:
> Jan. 25, 09 - old subject line: "Re: [CR] The Alex Singer on French
> Ebay"
>
> Hello Mark + List, cc George + Nick,
>
> thanks for your post, I'm quite familiar with the TA Pro 5 Vis,
> commonly called Cyclotouriste...
>
> ... As far as I know, Campagnolo never made anything smaller than 42
> teeth for their NR/SR cranksets, but TA did. I've still got a
> vintage, not modern, 41 tooth TA chainring for Campagnolo, it's eBay
> bound. TA also made and makes 38 tooth chainrings for 130 BCD
> Shimano-style cranks, and of course they make a 33 tooth chainring
> for 110 BCD, I own several. On doubles, I mostly use 50-33 or 48-33.
> Like the 41/144 + 38/130 BCD rings, 33's have to be relatively thin
> to fit the spider. Peter White sells them for around 50 bucks.
>
> Your sign-off "28-42 compact double with a 14-28 FW" was
> interesting. I checked the archives, my questions to the List
> concern what kind of cranks and gearing other folks are using on
> their vintage and KOF bikes:
>
> 1. What BCD do YOU like, i.e. are most folks riding (Campagnolo) 144
> and/or (TA+Stronglight) 50.4, or is there a sizeable minority of
> others? 122 anyone? Or do we have lots of collectors with almost as
> many BCD's as bikes?
> 2. Are almost all using vintage cranks, or do other heretics besides
> George and myself also use classical style but post '83 cranks like
> TA Zephyrs, Sugino compacts etc? (Hope that question is OK, Dale)
> 3. Do we have mostly racers and randonneurs with doubles, or a bunch
> of triples as well? What gearing do YOU like?
>
> Greets
>
> Kai Hilbertz
> Munich, Germany
>
>
>
>
> On 25.01.2009, at 04:58, Mark Stonich wrote:
>
> At 1/24/2009 07:37 PM +0100, Kai Hilbertz wrote:
> Hello Jan, cc List,
>
> do you personally prefer 48/32, as stated? That would mean a BCD of 94
> (or smaller), and then you could go smaller with the inner chainring.
> Or were you referring to 48/33 or 48/34 with a BCD of 110? What do you
> use in the rear?
>
> Kai,
> With the TA Cyclotouriste a 26t inner ring on a double is possible.
> With the 86mm Stronglight 99 a 28t inner ring on a double is possible.
> I imagine the constructeurs were making whatever they needed.
>
> Have you ever seen a 33t 110mm bcd ring? I haven't.
>
> Mark "28-42 compact double with a 14-28 FW" Stonich;
> Minneapolis, Minnesota USA